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RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

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  • Dr. Wolfgang J. Schneider CITC
    EXACTLY ! ... Ron Jeffries wrote: I often feel that I could do better myself -- although I suspect that I am quite often wrong. What makes it easier for me to
    Message 1 of 17 , Oct 8, 2005
      EXACTLY !

      > Zsolt Szasz wrote:
      >> In not so many words, I deeply appreciate if my agile coach can code.

      > Jim Hyslop wrote:
      >> I'd agree there, and not just for agile coaches.

      Wolfgang Schneider wrote:
      > Basically, I do agree 100%. But it can be like a curse. I am in IT for
      > 35++ years, as an analyst, developer, tester, so I always end up as
      > test manager, acting project manager or so when they did hire me just
      > as an expert. I have to spend a lot of energy reigning myself in, let
      > my people do their work although I am pretty sure I could do it better
      > myself, I have to keep away from micromanaging, etc.

      Ron Jeffries wrote:
      I often feel that I could do better myself -- although I suspect that I am
      quite often wrong. What makes it easier for me to hold back is that even if
      I could do better than any one of them, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do better
      than all of them combined. ;->
    • Mike Dwyer
      And so tell me why it is important to have a Scrum Master who spends a lot of energy keep his fingers out of the code (or the heads) of the folks? Scrum
      Message 2 of 17 , Oct 8, 2005
        And so tell me why it is important to have a Scrum Master who spends a lot
        of energy keep his fingers out of the code (or the heads) of the folks?

        Scrum Masters should be out of answers and into questions that move
        impediments.

        Michael F. Dwyer

        "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a
        solution may emerge."
        "A Plan is a complex situation, adapting to an emerging solution."

        -----Original Message-----
        From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
        [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Wolfgang J.
        Schneider CITC
        Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 2:30 PM
        To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

        EXACTLY !

        > Zsolt Szasz wrote:
        >> In not so many words, I deeply appreciate if my agile coach can code.

        > Jim Hyslop wrote:
        >> I'd agree there, and not just for agile coaches.

        Wolfgang Schneider wrote:
        > Basically, I do agree 100%. But it can be like a curse. I am in IT for
        > 35++ years, as an analyst, developer, tester, so I always end up as
        > test manager, acting project manager or so when they did hire me just
        > as an expert. I have to spend a lot of energy reigning myself in, let
        > my people do their work although I am pretty sure I could do it better
        > myself, I have to keep away from micromanaging, etc.

        Ron Jeffries wrote:
        I often feel that I could do better myself -- although I suspect that I am
        quite often wrong. What makes it easier for me to hold back is that even if
        I could do better than any one of them, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do better
        than all of them combined. ;->






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      • Dr. Wolfgang J. Schneider CITC
        I am not a scrum master, but a conservative IT hand. I am just looking into what s going on, learning that old methods have five-letter-labels like SCRUM and
        Message 3 of 17 , Oct 9, 2005
          I am not a scrum master, but a conservative IT hand. I am just looking into
          what's going on, learning that old methods have five-letter-labels like
          SCRUM and AGILE not necessarily is to moved to junk mail because it is a
          viagra keyword...

          -----Original Message-----
          From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
          [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
          Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 21:36
          To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

          And so tell me why it is important to have a Scrum Master who spends a lot
          of energy keep his fingers out of the code (or the heads) of the folks?

          Scrum Masters should be out of answers and into questions that move
          impediments.

          Michael F. Dwyer

          "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a
          solution may emerge."
          "A Plan is a complex situation, adapting to an emerging solution."

          -----Original Message-----
          From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
          [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Wolfgang J.
          Schneider CITC
          Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 2:30 PM
          To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

          EXACTLY !

          > Zsolt Szasz wrote:
          >> In not so many words, I deeply appreciate if my agile coach can code.

          > Jim Hyslop wrote:
          >> I'd agree there, and not just for agile coaches.

          Wolfgang Schneider wrote:
          > Basically, I do agree 100%. But it can be like a curse. I am in IT for
          > 35++ years, as an analyst, developer, tester, so I always end up as
          > test manager, acting project manager or so when they did hire me just
          > as an expert. I have to spend a lot of energy reigning myself in, let
          > my people do their work although I am pretty sure I could do it better
          > myself, I have to keep away from micromanaging, etc.

          Ron Jeffries wrote:
          I often feel that I could do better myself -- although I suspect that I am
          quite often wrong. What makes it easier for me to hold back is that even if
          I could do better than any one of them, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do better
          than all of them combined. ;->






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        • Mike Dwyer
          Welcome from the Grumpy old men faction of the Agile and Scrum Movement. Speaking for myself, (and anyone else who agrees) This 5 letter world we live in does
          Message 4 of 17 , Oct 9, 2005
            Welcome from the Grumpy old men faction of the Agile and Scrum Movement.
            Speaking for myself, (and anyone else who agrees) This 5 letter world we
            live in does sound very old. It is. It is the way things get done by small
            teams of people who have self respect and self discipline as well as the
            courage to say they were wrong and are strong enough to let others help
            them. This is not drivel. The Daily Update MUST be done, people must
            answer each question and the scrum master must move impediments. There is
            not a ounce of trying to do this here. It is done or not. This also drives
            the key measure of the effort. Stuff that works (in the case of codable
            sections) or in my case, stuff that can be used by other people to get their
            jobs done smarter better faster. (business rules, for example.)

            This makes Scrum and Agile, again in my opinion, a very conservative and
            extremely extensible method because it comes down to keeping your
            commitments and earning the right to be trusted and relied upon.

            I now yield the soap box.

            Michael F. Dwyer

            "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a
            solution may emerge."
            "A Plan is a complex situation, adapting to an emerging solution."

            -----Original Message-----
            From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Wolfgang J.
            Schneider CITC
            Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:43 PM
            To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

            I am not a scrum master, but a conservative IT hand. I am just looking into
            what's going on, learning that old methods have five-letter-labels like
            SCRUM and AGILE not necessarily is to moved to junk mail because it is a
            viagra keyword...

            -----Original Message-----
            From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
            Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 21:36
            To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

            And so tell me why it is important to have a Scrum Master who spends a lot
            of energy keep his fingers out of the code (or the heads) of the folks?

            Scrum Masters should be out of answers and into questions that move
            impediments.

            Michael F. Dwyer

            "Planning constantly peers into the future for indications as to where a
            solution may emerge."
            "A Plan is a complex situation, adapting to an emerging solution."

            -----Original Message-----
            From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Wolfgang J.
            Schneider CITC
            Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 2:30 PM
            To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile Mentor Job Description

            EXACTLY !

            > Zsolt Szasz wrote:
            >> In not so many words, I deeply appreciate if my agile coach can code.

            > Jim Hyslop wrote:
            >> I'd agree there, and not just for agile coaches.

            Wolfgang Schneider wrote:
            > Basically, I do agree 100%. But it can be like a curse. I am in IT for
            > 35++ years, as an analyst, developer, tester, so I always end up as
            > test manager, acting project manager or so when they did hire me just
            > as an expert. I have to spend a lot of energy reigning myself in, let
            > my people do their work although I am pretty sure I could do it better
            > myself, I have to keep away from micromanaging, etc.

            Ron Jeffries wrote:
            I often feel that I could do better myself -- although I suspect that I am
            quite often wrong. What makes it easier for me to hold back is that even if
            I could do better than any one of them, I'm pretty sure I couldn't do better
            than all of them combined. ;->






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