Re: [scrumdevelopment] CONCERN: over continuing Schisming/Fragmentation of Scrum & Agile
- Kurt - could you help us see what we could improve about the writing in core scrum for the agile atlas? Heck any of the other material too?Caveat Emptor I co-authored the User Stories article.CheersMarkOn Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Kurt Häusler <kurt.haeusler@...> wrote:
It is all good. Schism seems to be a strange word to use. Does anyone
want a singular, official, unified, understanding of what Agile is and
how it should be certified? (I did notice you defined your schism
based on the 3 major certification providers, an interesting and
perhaps telling choice).
A few years ago you might have concerned yourself with the "schism"
between XP, DSDM and Crystal. But in hindsight it seems healthy to
have a variety of communities coming up with different ideas and
trying them out and feeding off each other.
Today we could also concern ourselves with the "schism" between those
who see agile as being about programming practices, those who see it
as being something about how knowledge work or product development is
managed, and those who see it as a whole new mindset that will replace
the way any type of organisation gets managed.
Another Schism in the community could be those focused agile and
scrum, those combining lean approaches and ideas from flow based
development and the Kanban community, and those who say Agile is
obsolete and Stoos is the future.
But why worry? Why not encourage this dynamic, thriving innovation?
As far as Scrum goes, specifically the differences between the Scrum
Guide and Core Scrum, well people are concerned about that. I noticed
a few threads on Xing recently about the topic. Some people see the
differences as being serious and important, and something in dire need
of resolution. I and many others don't care that much. I think I
prefer the Scrum Guide's latest description of Scrum, but really,
whatever works best for the team is fine for me, and I find heated
discussions on the topic a bit of a waste of effort that could be
better invested elsewhere.
It appears as though you are in favor of a "fully-engaged effort toWell if you think that is important, then you can attempt to concern
try and resolve the following differences
among these three different, for lack of a better term, "Factions""
others with it and maybe reach come positive outcome. You aren't
alone, but to be honest I don't think many people are too worried.
We will always have the choice to do what we think is best, based on
the rich variety of ideas out there, and the specific needs of our
context, regardless of which certification provider happens to
describe parts of a framework in a certain way.--
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On 4/20/13 10:16 AM, A Narasimhan wrote:
> Recently there was a mail on Agile Scaling by Ron Jeffries which went
> like this:
> ‘Collaboration works in a team but not so much in a building...’ etc.
> There were several points covered in that mail on scaling. I somehow
> deleted that mail.
> Can someone re-send the mail please...You could also send it to my
> personal mail
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