Re: [scrumdevelopment] Relative value of Mike Cohn CSM vs more generic CSM
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--- On Mon, 1/23/12, Michael Jones <michaelhardwinjones@...> wrote:
From: Michael Jones <michaelhardwinjones@...>
Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Relative value of Mike Cohn CSM vs more generic CSM
Date: Monday, January 23, 2012, 4:22 PMHi all,
My company is sending me on a CSM course.
Mike Cohn is in town (London), end of the month, and the course is £300 more expensive than the baseline generic courses. I pitched to be allowed to go but the co. balked at the extra cost.
They didn't see the value add of attending a course given by a thought leader in Scrum vs a professional trainer.
I'm considering paying the difference myself if the company will let me.
So my question is this: do you feel there's a great deal of extra value in attending a course given by Mike (or someone of equivalent stature) vs a relatively unknown professional trainer?
Interested in opinions from people who might have attended either / both.
- I second Ron's sentiment. I was fortunate to have Jeff Sutherland co-teach my CSM class and while I don't think it cost me any extra, I would have certainly paid the equivalent of a couple hundred extra pounds for the privilege, and I'd put Mike Cohn into that group as well. Jeff's stories from the field, and from his years and years of Scrum experience were invaluable and highly illustrative and provided illumination into how all this would work in the real world.
Now, how much extra would I pay to attend a Scrum course taught by Bonnie Raitt? Now there's a good question.... :-)
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:54 AM, RonJeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
Hi Michael,Yes. Your company should pay it, actually. He literally wrote the books on planning and user stories for Scrum.On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Michael Jones wrote:All the CSTs have been through a rigorous selection process but it is a bit like asking whether to listen to your local bar band or pay a bit extra to hear Bonnie Raitt.
- :), am enjoying reading your email !!!!On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:46 PM, RonJeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
Hi Michael,Yes, It is important to be fair, especially if you can also be stupid at the same time. :)On Jan 23, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Michael Jones wrote: