Re: [scrumdevelopment] SCRUM and PMBOK (follow-up)
- Hi Mike,
I like you iniative but on the other hand I see no use in an addendum
to the PMI book. For what reason? Scrum or Agile project management is
NOT a different extension of Project Management, it is not a different
kind of flavor or a different way of managing people.
In my speach at the XPdays I will try to explain why they are totally
different. Here I can only say that both approaches are not
compatible. Agile development is working in an traditional environment
because of its adaptivnes, but traditional project management will not
work in an agile environment.
So my question is - what is the purpose of having Scrum or XP in an
PMI book? Sure we would get more awareness but maybe this is not the
best thing we could do. In life a new fashion is always based on the
ideas of outsiders. Like the Punks - 20 years ago they started with
colored hairs, and with a very different way of seeing things. Now it
is fully ok for a business people like me to wear a haircut like the
Punks in the '90s. But their ideas had no effects on the society. And
this will happen if we put the ideas into the PMI. Survive will the
framework - but Scrum is NOT the framework.
And I like the idea of collecting success or case studies - but this
is something the community tries since I read the mails in this group
about 2 years now. Obviously does notbody like to start writing these
On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 20:38:10 -0000, xenomino <xenomino@...> wrote:
At the conclusion of that discussion, I volunteered to
> talk to PMI about creating an extension to the PMBOK covering Agile
> PM. October was the PMI National Congress, and I met with two
> distinguished members from PMI about this. Both members are
> currently involved in creating "official" PMI documents (including
> leading the PMBOK rewrite).
> For these two reasons, it is clear to me that now is not the
> right time to address a PMBOK extension.
> 1) A call be made for bona-fide and verifiable case-studies where
> SCRUM or Agile has been implemented.
> 2) A standard of proof be established for these case-studies,
> 3) Standard(s) of success be identified,
> 4) A central collection point for these case studies and standards be
> 5) A team of reviewer-volunteers filter the case-studies based on the
> standards of proof and success.
> 6) The findings of the reviewer-volunteers be statistically grouped
> and used as proof for suggested best-practices.
> I'd like to be the central point of collection for these activities.
> If anyone is interested in helping with this activity, please e-mail
> me privately.