Re: [scrumdevelopment] Questions about "To Verify" and "Done"
Op 7-9-2010 22:42, daswartz@prodigy schreef:
> So teams who used to move tasks on their board, but stopped
> doing that lose their capability to do big stories? And they
> have to handle that by doing more upfront analysis in order to
> break down their items into smaller chunks?
Yes. But the amount of up-front analysis required to break stories
into smaller chunks is usually very small; on the order of an hour or
two at most for a very large story. And, the value of having smaller
stories is quite large for almost all teams.
To me it is a bad example. Like Ilja mentioned in a follow up "In fact, all this needs is an email address where I can send my application, as far as I can tell". All the other stories are, for me at least, pulled out of a high hat.
Working with the product owner to split stories into vertical
slices that make sense outside the technical realm is a learned skill.
It will take a little more time until the team and product owner get
used to it. Dave Smith just posted a message with a sample of a
breakdown of a large story on this list in message:
It all comes down to what you call a big story. If the story is larger than the team thinks they can accomplish in a single sprint then it is too big. If you have a sprint with multiple items and can commit to it then I can't see what's too big about a single item.
One of the upsides of medium sized items is that in a sprint the team and the product owner, who both are responsible for reaching the sprint's goal, have some wiggle room in the scope. And that's part of managing a successful sprint execution too.
If doing this helps you, by all means do it and tell others how it helped you. Just don't stare yourself blind on it, there may be merits in other practices too.