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  • Ken Schwaber
    Neat!! ... From: Linda Rising [mailto:risingl@acm.org] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 PM To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment]
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      Neat!!

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Linda Rising [mailto:risingl@...]
      Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:48 PM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] RE: Agile Software Development
      Revolution


      Now that I'm back from Ireland, I can add a little bodhran accompaniment
      :-)!

      http://www.ifccsa.org/bodhran.html



      Ken Schwaber wrote:

      >MIke,
      >Linda Rising is the bard and songstress of agile. I hope she takes these
      >from village to village so people understand better.
      >Ken
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: Mike Beedle [mailto:beedlem@...]
      >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:50 AM
      >To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] RE: Agile Software Development
      >Revolution
      >
      >
      >
      >Mike:
      >
      >Well said:
      >
      > the intellectual baggage of _defined_ processes
      > carried over from previous lives, projects, related
      > experience, and education causes for most
      > metaphor-block and dysfunctional translation.
      > (What a challenge we have ahead of us!!!)
      >
      >That's why it is so important to have good mentors,
      >experienced Scrum masters, and experienced developers,
      >that understand, at least in a tacit way that there
      >is a _fundamental_ difference of Agile vs. Traditional
      >(defined) software development.
      >
      >Also, just like Ken said, I'll have to add these ones
      >to the next Gantt chart I see:
      >
      > Task 3: Have teams self-organize, 3 days
      > Task 4: Allow requirements to emerge, 5 days
      >
      >:-) :-) ;-)
      >
      >And I'll eve add a few more:
      >
      > Task 5: Turn the Management pyramid upside down
      > Task 6: Adopt Agile Values
      >
      >More relevant to Scrum, and to continue the parody above,
      >I often see trained Team Leaders and Managers
      >walking into the Scrum meeting assigning tasks and
      >expecting direct reports like (to continue the parody):
      >
      > "Your _assigned_ task yesterday was to adopt the
      > Agile Values, were you able to do that?
      >
      > No?!!
      >
      > _You are having issues again_. _Report_
      > to me your any progress you are able to make
      > by tomorrow."
      >
      >They think that management _asigns_ tasks, that it
      >is developers who have issues to resolve, and that
      >developers should _report_ back to them in the morning.
      >
      >What we mean in Scrum is:
      >
      > Let me hear how things went and see how we, the
      > team, can help you
      >
      > Let me hear any issues you have that go beyond
      > your control so I can help you
      >
      > and
      >
      > Let me hear what new tasks _you are choosing_ to
      > work on next and see how we, the team, can help you
      >
      >instead of:
      >
      > I assign tasks to you every day
      >
      > you must tell me the issues you may have and
      > solve them
      >
      > and
      >
      > you report to me every day
      >
      > (Definitely NOT the spirit of Scrum)
      >
      >Attitude for the most part is what makes Scrum different than
      >micromanagement and Master/Slave direct management and
      >reporting,
      >
      >- Mike
      >
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