Re: [!! SPAM] Re: [scrumdevelopment] Letting attacks go unchallenged
- View SourceSilly, yet very frustrating. I do love your example of chefs not cooks though.
Well, that's just silly, isn't it? Mike's book on user stories doesn't
use that form, and it's the best known book on user stories. It's not in
any of the early XP books, for example... oh, well, people like their
recipes... when I teach scrum I teach, explicitly, that there are no
recipes - that we are chefs, not cooks, and that we have to deal with
the ingredients we have.
Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, CST
Senior Coach, Danube Technologies
Steve Ropa wrote:
>seeing items in the wider press that scrum can be too
> You know, I keep
> dogmatic. I justwonder, is it really *scrum* that is dogmatic, or is
> it the approachthat we, as a broad generalization, are taking. For
> instance, I haveseen some of the most amusing stories twisted around
> only so that theycan fit the "As a ___, I can ___ so that___" model.
> Would it reallyhave ended life as we know it if the story did not
> meet that form? Andyes, I've even seen people insist on rejecting
> stories that don'tfollow the form....
>*Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 10:07 AM
>*Subject:* Re: [scrumdevelopment] Letting attacks go unchallenged
>bullshit don't do much to move any debate
> I thinking statements like
> forward.Corey, how about some adult language?
>that scrum can be a little dogmatic, and the 2
> But I get the feeling
> day CSM course just bugsme. I think scrum is a good way to get
> started in agile, and that ishow it should be presented, with
> pointers to other things once you areready. I would also love to see
> some evolution, but I'm not so fussedas long as agile practicioners
> can get access to new materials if scrumstays fixed then it will
> become less and less useful over time newertechniques get introduced.
>agileconsulting. blogspot. com <http://agileconsult ing.blogspot. com>
> Jeff Anderson
>On Feb 1, 2010, at 8:13 AM, "mel" <mel.pullen@ntlworld .com
>> I was reading this post on
>> about the seminal article, "The new new product developmentgame".
>> This comment by Corey Ladas stands
>> "I forgot how much bullshit had been added by the
>>Scrum-Ban. In that he adds a
>> I've just finished Corey's book called
>> lot of structure to the developmentprocess, that may be appropriate
>> to software development and thatrequires interpretation by
>> technically competent people. I thinkthis comment in the book is
>> telling:you refuse to take responsibility for sequencing the work, then I
>>To my mind, the
>> He calls this the /developer's natural authority/.
>> priesthood of traditional software developmentshops is what got
>> businesses into the mess they are with managingdynamic projects in
>> the first place.he's taken as a starting point the distillation of agile project
>>control that is scrum and added structure.
>>Scrum has the absolute minimum to give management the
>> I believe
>> confidenceprojects are moving forward. It is my opinion that, by not
>>prescribing how the various events get done allows Scrum to be used
>>in many other areas that software development. Even product development.
>>techniques and practices that work
>> I think that there are many tools,
>> extremely well inside Scrum,depending upon the project that is being
>>community respond or
>> So, what do people think? Should the Scrum
>> ignore? Should Scrum evolve the way thatcritics suggest or the way
>>address that Yahoo
>> Apologies if people get bounces from the email
>> groups think I use. For some reason I can'tchange it. I suppose the
>> simplest thing would be to create a newaccount. Use mel at our
- View Source
Doesn't it seem a bit disproportionate, though? It does to me. I too
am curious what aspect of the human condition causes us to attribute
so much power to these words. The word "fuck" for example - though it
has an accepted definition in common use its meaning is entirely
contextual. It doesn't even convey a useful concept, therefore. So,
why is its presence in speech (or writing) so important to us?_,_.___
Why does a "wardrobe malfunction" produce a massive emotional response including congressional investigations? Beats me. Probably has something to do with the Puritans and maybe that repression amplifies the response.
Having said that, I do live in a less prudish part of the world (more sex on TV, more tolerance for public nudism, less sensitivity to obscene language). Even here, scatological references don't have much place in public discourse - you might occasionally hear 'Scheisse' from a politician's mouth, but it's an exception.
An interesting question is why modesty developed, why it lives on, and whether it will survive the Internet. It seems pretty deeply rooted, but I think that question belongs on a different list...
-- Peter Stevens, CSM, CSPO, CSP www.scrum-breakfast.com tel: +41 44 586 6450