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Re: [scrumdevelopment] Product Backlog : features or user stroies

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  • Ron Jeffries
    ... This is not the usage of user story vs feature that I ve been familiar with for the last decade or so ... Ron Jeffries www.XProgramming.com
    Message 1 of 36 , Jun 4, 2009
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      Hello, Roy. On Thursday, June 4, 2009, at 4:49:55 AM, you wrote:

      > The 'wish list' is the User Stories. The User Stories are all 'As
      > a user (in this role) I want ... or I need ... or I wish for ...'.
      > So the cncept of breaking features into User Stories is the wrong
      > way round ... the User Stories wll imply features that will be
      > identified and defined and designed when the User Story is analysed.

      This is not the usage of "user story" vs "feature" that I've been
      familiar with for the last decade or so ...

      Ron Jeffries
      www.XProgramming.com
      www.xprogramming.com/blog
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    • Morten Haug
      +1 on this. Brief summary: Definition of Done - *how* Acceptance Criteria - *what* Best regards, Morten Haug http://www.haugern.net/blog
      Message 36 of 36 , Jun 24, 2009
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        +1 on this. Brief summary:

        Definition of Done - *how*
        Acceptance Criteria - *what*

        Best regards,
        Morten Haug
        http://www.haugern.net/blog
        http://twitter.com/haugern

        --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, "jmilunsky" <jack@...> wrote:
        >
        > In my humble opinion, acceptance criteria relate to details on how the feature or user story functions i.e. the implementation has to work this way before the user accepts it
        >
        > definiion of done relates more to feature quality and completeness, i.e. unit tested, functionally tested, documented, version controlled, peer reviewed etc
        >
        > hope this helps
        > jack
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        > --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Vikas Atri <vikasait25@> wrote:
        > >
        > > Hi All,
        > >
        > > Can anyone please give me some inputs on DOD(definition of done)�vs acceptance criteria?
        > >
        > > Regards,
        > > Vikas
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > ________________________________
        > > From: Vikas Atri <vikasait25@>
        > > To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 4:07:02 PM
        > > Subject: [scrumdevelopment] DOD vs acceptance criteria
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Dear All,
        > >
        > > Thanks for the inputs on feature vs user stroy.
        > > I think, it is a debatable topic, but I see that most of people on this forum agree that user story is what we first get from the customer or product user.
        > > Ryan : Your inputs are convincing and that ends the debate..
        > >
        > > Also till now, I understoodthat there is acceptance criteria for every user story or feature
        > > being implemented in sprint.This concept is important from perspective that
        > > every feature or user story being developed must be demonstrable.
        > > But there is something I learnt from one of team members was
        > > DOD : definition of done.
        > > Has anyone of you ever heard of it?Is it different from acceptance criteria.
        > > Seeking guidance on the same.
        > > Regards,
        > > Vikas
        > >
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