Re: Benefits of joining ScrumAlliance
- Ken, I generally echo Deb's sentiments here and agree that a common
web-present 'home' for everything authoritative Scrum will not only
serve csm's, but potential customers and researchers better.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Deb" <deborah@h...> wrote:
> I'm still scratching my head over this one... what can we expect
> ScrumAlliance that is different from what we get on the
> ScrumDevelopment list? Note: I'm not trying to rain on anyone's
> parade, here: just contributing proactively rather than complaining
> afterward :-)
> Ken, I like your ideas of research, course development, methodology
> development (as mentioned in the original concept), conferences...
> although all of these would depend on participation, which seems to
> have been weak until now. How will we motivate participation,
> differently than has been done so far?
> To put it bluntly: what's in it for the busy CSM who volunteers
> time to make these programs work? I think part of the problem is
> CSM does not mean a whole lot out in the world of work. Normally,
> participating in a professional association looks good on a resume,
> and this itself is one reason for participating. However,
> ScrumAlliance does not mean anything to HR or even IT in most cases
> (at this point). I'm wondering if there needs to be a PR aspect to
> ScrumAlliance, to make it relevant, to make participation
> Do we need to go on the road and make some noise at conferences to
> some attention, develop a "name"? PR is not my area of expertise,
> thinking aloud here.
> We could also benefit from the ScrumAlliance url as a centralised
> web-presence for Scrum - something that gets enough hits to show up
> the search engines. This site could then direct casual browsers to
> local Scrum groups' sites - to find speakers, discussion groups,
> CSMs etc. However, again, this depends on the quality of this
> site as a PR tool... it needs to be attractive, easy to navigate,
> some easy-to-digest overviews for the general public, to entice them
> to investigate further. I'd be especially willing to pay a
> subscription if it would help develop and maintain a very
> looking site that would impress potential employers or bosses to
> I am trying to sell Scrum. The ControlChaos content seems a good
> starting point, but we need a more polished UI and more helpful
> navigation. (I'd be willing to participate in requirements analysis
> for this, by the way).
> The similar sites that stay most in my mind are those where I can
> download whitepapers, diagrams etc, for free. So this is different
> from the "CSMs only" aspect of the Alliance. There needs to be a
> public face on it, to my mind. Something we give back openly to the
> public. Obviously we don't want to give away what Ken charges to
> - but summaries, tips, case studies, list of links, etc.
> Another thing we could get is privacy - discussions with only CSMs,
> which could be useful for discussing "chickens and pigs" or similar
> touchy issues in a closed context.
> Someone mentioned improving the plug-in. Personally, I find my excel
> spreadsheet quite adequate, and if I upgraded it would have to be to
> an actual tool that would provide some data integrity, concurrency
> control, filtering ability, reporting etc. There seem to be a couple
> in the works... one role the ScrumAlliance could potentially play is
> to "approve" or "recommend" 3rd-party tools, and participate in
> development if asked. So there could potentially be
> ScrumAlliance-approved and non ScrumAlliance-approved tools out
> distinguishing those that CSMs have collectively endorsed.
> Would I pay to join? Yes, the first year (out of curiosity).
> If it did not give me anything useful, something I could not get
> elsewhere, maybe not the second year.
> Would I participate? Given that face-to-face communication is the
> richest kind for development of software or methodologies or
> else - I'd prefer to put my energy into my local Scrum group, so
> not. UNLESS there was a way for my local group to contribute to the
> larger cause via the ScrumAlliance - now there's a thot.
> Well, those are my idas, after some discussion here in Toronto.
- Hi Deb,
> And on that note - how about we wrap voting up on Friday night?That
> will have given both weekend and weekday readers a chance. Fromthat
> point the pigs can (flock? what do pigs do? oh, Scrum! :-) anddecide
> how to move forward.Sounds good to me.
I can't recall what we call a "collection" of pigs but we could
use "forage" as our call to action!
> You can also volunteer to be a "pig" on the project there.members?)
> So far, voting has been light (understatement, for a list of 800
It is worth noting that all pigs will be worked hard. Chickens who
oink need not apply :-D.
John A Thomson - CSM