"Project" a troublesome concept for Scrum - was Re: Scrum and Microsoft Project
- Thanks, this is helpful.
I wish we had some new vocabulary for these activities...
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Simon Coles"
> On Sunday, Sun 30 May 2004, at 17:09:57, Ron wrote:sure.
> > Whether all projects should be done without contracts, I'm not
> > I feel quite sure that Up Front Planning is a good thing. I needto
> > know whether my credit card app can be done for $5,000,000 or not,iterative
> > with how much capability, in order to decide whether to go ahead.
> > A key insight -- I claim -- is that up front planning and
> > development are quite compatible.Front
> I think the key thing is to understand what the legal uses of 'Up
> Planning' are.building the
> As Ron implies, such planning is a necessary and useful part of
> initial case for the project. I'm not sure it has any other use.In my
> experience, initial business case costs are typically built top-down -
> through comparisons with similar prior projects, knowledge ofexperts in the
> domain and whatever rules of thumb and industry metrics work foryou.
> Personally, I take the gross costs we've worked out top-down, applythe '1/3
> power' rule-of thumb to get a rough duration for the project andcompare
> this to what the business case team desire the schedule to be. Ifthere is
> a rough correlation, then I don't sweat the schedule too much (justremind
> the team that estimates at this stage are poor and incomplete), ifthey are
> materially different, then I dig a bit deeper.it has
> What I never do is actually try to execute the up-front plan. Once
> been used to input rough delivery costs and timescales into theinitial
> business case, it's job is done. After that point, it's time forbottom-up
> backlog planning to begin. Once the backlog is complete enough tobe a
> reasonable representation of the project scope and effort, then Iuse it as
> the input to a restated 'stage 2' business case.
- Hi Bryan,
"Just as an FYI, I have posted an example of a sprint backlog using
MS Project to the Scrum Alliance website."
I was interested in your MS Project example, but can't find it. Can
you direct me to where it is, or send me a copy?