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Re: let's have open discussions - civility please - whoops, minor correction

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  • Alan Shalloway
    At the end I said Let s discuss issues and talk personalities . Of course, I meant _not_ talk personalities. Now, in this case my _hands_ were wrong. ;0)
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      At the end I said "Let's discuss issues and talk personalities". Of
      course, I meant _not_ talk personalities.

      Now, in this case my _hands_ were wrong. ;0)
      Alan Shalloway
      CEO, Net Objectives
      Achieving Enterprise and Team Agility

      --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Shalloway"
      <alshall@...> wrote:
      >
      > I would hope this discussion group could always be civil and ben an
      > open conversation. By that I mean that we should be able to express
      > our views without being told "we are wrong." That can be very
      > intimidating. This is especially true when someone new to the
      group
      > sees this happening to others. With so many luminaries on this
      site,
      > I certainly can see how someone could get nervous about being told
      > they are wrong by someone well known in the industry. In any event,
      > it doesn't feel good.
      >
      > There are many passionate people on this group and I think that is
      > great. But personally, I prefer to always be treated with respect
      > and not just be told I am wrong. Tell me why my _thoughts_ are
      wrong
      > and I'll be happy to explain them. This creates open conversations
      > and all will learn something.
      >
      > Given this discussion group has a history of throwing people off of
      > it when people disagree with some central themes, only makes things
      > worse. Of course, when this has happened in the past, another
      reason
      > is given as to why people were removed.
      >
      > Scrum is obviously mainstream. All agree that it adds tremendous
      > value to the industry. All (I believe) agree that it doesn't solve
      > all problems. This means that questioning where and how it works
      > should be encouraged, not discouraged. There are many different
      ways
      > to teach/coach/transition to it. Most have merit - depending upon
      > budgets, industries, staff, ...
      >
      > I believe in following the scientific method. Make an hypothesis,
      > look for the evidence, discuss and improve the hypothesis. This is
      > what I do.
      >
      > Let's discuss issues and talk personalities. Ironically, this is a
      > tenant of Scrum - respect people and have an open forum for
      > conversation. Let's have our discussion group reflect the tenants
      of
      > Scrum.
      >
      > Alan Shalloway
      > CEO, Net Objectives
      > Achieving Enterprise and Team Agility
      >
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