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  • Cory Foy
    ... Is the resistance from the whole team, or a certain team lead? ... Perhaps do a brown bag / lunch n learn session. But the fact that their schedules are
    Message 1 of 31 , Aug 2, 2008
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      Alan Dayley wrote:
      > I ran into an unexpected and strong resistance to a 1 hour meeting
      > introducing the framework last week. I still have strong resistance to
      > even the < 15 minute daily team meeting and statements that "I already
      > know how to do the work. I don't need training." A 1 hour meeting of
      > any kind is difficult to schedule, even if the end result would be a
      > tremendous payoff.

      Is the resistance from the whole team, or a certain team lead?

      > It is an impediment of surprisingly large proportions, discovered when
      > attempting the above mentioned intro meeting. This is the main reason I
      > have not yet pushed a retrospective.

      Perhaps do a brown bag / lunch n' learn session. But the fact that their
      schedules are so tight that even a one hour meeting is tough is a red
      flag on many different levels.

      > Management wants Scrum. The team wants results and if Scrum gets them
      > there, that's fine with them. But, none of them "get it" yet and change
      > is hard. The only other two people that "get it" in the company are the
      > executive sponsor and one other new CSM who is currently doing a project
      > of one person, himself.

      That's an interesting statement. If I had to take a guess, they want the
      /end result/ of using agile practices like Scrum. What this likely means
      is that they don't even understand what the impediments of their own
      teams are.

      Have you looked at Fearless Change? I'd also recommend looking at some
      of the Lean topics Alan talked about in one of his replies to you.

      > I must say, this has been a very interesting process of "people
      > watching" so far. It's amazing to see the team, and myself, go through
      > this process. Proof that Scrum is about people, not technology!

      Amen to that. But you seem to have a long road ahead of you. I hope you
      are able to keep us informed of how things are going!

      Cory Foy
    • david.hicks_radtac
      Not sure if this will help but I have often found that people are less than enthusiastic about changing the way they work using an approach suggested by
      Message 31 of 31 , Aug 4, 2008
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        Not sure if this will help but I have often found that people are
        less than enthusiastic about changing the way they work using an
        approach suggested by someone else - whether it be Scrum or any other
        new practice.

        In all circumstances I have tried to identify that person's goals -
        what they are truly trying to acheive in thier work, and what
        motivates them - and then help them to see how the new working
        practices can help them acheive those goals. If I can do this (and it
        is often difficult), then it always helps.

        --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Alan Dayley <alandd@...>
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        > Writing about this topic in my Scrum adoption journal, I seem to
        > arrived at a conclusion that should work for me. However, the
        great and
        > MUCH more experienced minds here can help solidify my confidence.
        If I
        > may indulge, let me describe my thought train.
        > Our Scrum adoption is going slowly but positively. I have
        attempted to
        > teach the team about Scrum and agile principles to allow them to
        > which pieces they want to adopt as we go. This has worked well with
        > starting adoption of minimizing team effort interruptions and
        > interruptions.
        > But we have stopped adopting and the team has not asked for
        anything more.
        > They only have a single, one-hour presentation on the Scrum
        > and some written materials in their knowledge bank. I am confident
        > they either don't know what to ask for or don't see the practical
        > of specific practices.
        > We still very much have a Team Lead providing command and control
        in the
        > most positive way possible. (Another place where a self-directed
        > is not yet realized.) The Lead has stated two things the pushed me
        > my conclusion, paraphrasing: "We don't need training. We already
        > how to get the job done," and "Just tell us a practice to do and
        > do it."
        > Overcoming the lack of desire to receive instruction is a slightly
        > different topic that I'll choose to ignore at present. Focusing on
        > second point, I did not want "command and control" the team in their
        > adoption of Scrum.
        > Then I remembered an question and answer exchange during ScrumMaster
        > training. The question was "What is the usual way to introduce
        Scrum in
        > an organization?" Trainer Michael described a two-day kick off
        > through introduction, exercises, creating a real backlog, sprint
        > planning and go.
        > And it hit me. The described introduction process is "command and
        > control," of a sort. And that makes sense to me now. When
        learning a
        > new technique, the student must be told what to do and the real
        > is in the doing. Especially when learning Scrum, the learning, and
        > proving value, is definitely in the doing.
        > I know, based on team desires and management reluctance to surrender
        > time for training, a multi-hour "immersion" or an attempt to change
        > everything all at once will not work in my situation. But, I think,
        > based on the Team Lead's desire to be told and an initial
        > "teacher/student" relationship, it safe for me as ScrumMaster to
        > practices that the team can learn by doing. Command in the most
        > self-directed team manner possible.
        > Any thoughts or insights for me about my thinking here?
        > Alan
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