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RE: [scrumdevelopment] RE: [APM] Re: Proposed Amendment to the Agile Manifesto (no, thanks)

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  • Mike Beedle
    Steven: Yes, good point, executable tests are sort-of included in the Working software over... statement but in a very convoluted and non-obvious way, imo.
    Message 1 of 2 , Mar 12, 2004

      Yes, good point, "executable tests" are sort-of included in the
      "Working software over..." statement but in a very convoluted
      and non-obvious way, imo.

      "Executable tests" or even justs tests, are now such an integral part
      of doing Agile Software Development that is a pitty some
      explicit statement is not made about them, and how they relate to

      That's the point I am trying to get accross,

      - Mike


      "I am always doing things I can't do, that's how I get to do them."

      --Pablo Picasso

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Steven Gordon [mailto:sagordon@...]
      Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:44 AM
      To: agileprojectmanagement@yahoogroups.com;
      scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com; extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [scrumdevelopment] RE: [APM] Re: Proposed Amendment to the
      Agile Manifesto (no, thanks)


      If these tests are executable and "requirements definitions and
      traceability" would be considered a form of documentation, then "Working
      software over comprehensive documentation" already has this covered.


      Steven Gordon

      In a message dated 3/12/2004 7:43:20 AM Mountain Standard Time,
      beedlem@... writes:

      Dear friends,

      I hereby propose an addendum to the Agile Manifesto:


      We are uncovering better ways of developing
      software by doing it and helping others do it.
      Through this work we have come to value:

      Individuals and interactions over processes and tools
      Working software over comprehensive documentation
      Customer collaboration over contract negotiation
      Responding to change over following a plan

      Tests over requirements definitions and traceability

      That is, while there is value in the items on
      the right, we value the items on the left more.

      What do you think?

      - Mike

      "Nothing in the world is so powerful as an idea whose time has come." d
      -- Victor Hugo

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