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  • Michael James
    ... Mark, these kinds of posts waste people s time. --mj
    Message 1 of 130 , Feb 28, 2008
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      --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Mark Saffell <masaffell@...> wrote:
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      > why should one read the book? did the person whom wrote the book read the book?
      >

      Mark, these kinds of posts waste people's time.

      --mj
    • Bas Vodde
      You, a scrum guy, went to a pub with an XP guy! Shame on you! You should know better than that. Bas
      Message 130 of 130 , Mar 12, 2008
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        You, a scrum guy, went to a pub with an XP guy!

        Shame on you! You should know better than that.

        Bas


        On Feb 19, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Michael James wrote:

        > I just went to a London XP pub night and met with a hardcore
        > XP guy who claims to dislike Scrum. This wouldn't be notable
        > except that it's happened before.
        >
        > I queried him on what practices he found useful, and it
        > sounded a lot like Scrum to me, plus the engineering
        > practices we usually recommend learning ASAP to
        > avoid technical debt: (TDD, refactoring, continuous
        > integration, pair programming....). He agreed that
        > many teams fail to adopt these practices without
        > a full-time mentor, learning them incrementally
        > makes sense, and that Scrum is often the path
        > people take to discover this.
        >
        > He also agreed with everything we've been
        > talking about on this group: the importance of
        > story "done" rather than task hours expended,
        > getting the customer in the loop, fixed iterations,
        > retrospectives.... I really couldn't find any
        > contradiction with Scrum.
        >
        > As I see it, Scrum is XP's biggest ally. So where
        > is this resentment coming from?
        >
        > --mj
        >
        >
        >
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