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Re: Firms Using Scrum // Nokia Test proposal

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  • Joseph Little
    I have now added a column where you can indicate whether each firm currently has one team (or more) that passes the Nokia Test. See
    Message 1 of 5 , Dec 13, 2007
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      I have now added a column where you can indicate whether each firm
      currently has one team (or more) that passes the Nokia Test.

      See http://scrumalliance.pbwiki.com/Firms%20Using%20Scrum

      Thanks, Joe


      --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Little"
      <jhlittle@...> wrote:
      >
      > Any other votes on whether we should add the Nokia Test to the Firms
      > Using Scrum list ?
      >
      > (For the list, see http://scrumalliance.pbwiki.com/Firms-Using-Scrum)
      >
      > Thanks, Joe
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Brookins" <chris@>
      > wrote:
      > >
      > > I think it would be great to post a short on-line survey that asks
      Scrum
      > > practitioners the Nokia test questions to see if they pass and
      > publish the
      > > summary of results for each question for all to see.
      > >
      > > On that very topic, I just was watching this video
      > > http://www.infoq.com/interviews/jeff-sutherland-scrum-rules of Jeff
      > > Sutherland discussing the Nokia test and it was very informative.
      > > - Chris
      > >
      > >
      > > On 12/2/07, Joseph Little <jhlittle@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hi all,
      > > >
      > > > Again, let me encourage you to post your firm (or firms you know)
      > on the
      > > > list of Firms Using Scrum. If that is true of course.
      > > >
      > > > Here: http://scrumalliance.pbwiki.com/Firms-Using-Scrum
      > > >
      > > > One of the questions about the list that comes up from time to
      > time is
      > > > some variation on this theme: "Is each of these firms *really* doing
      > > > Scrum?" Or "How well is each of these firms doing Scrum?"
      > > >
      > > > In my experience, the motivation behind these questions can be quite
      > > > legitimate...we see people saying they are doing Scrum, yet it is
      > hardly
      > > > recognizable to those of us who love (and know) Scrum. (Or at
      > least we are
      > > > sure our understanding of Scrum is the better one.)
      > > >
      > > > But perhaps we can make this information somewhat more objective
      > and less
      > > > a religious war.
      > > >
      > > > So, I am volunteering to see if I can modify the list to allow
      > firms to
      > > > note whether they pass the Nokia Test for doing Scrum. *Do you
      > think that
      > > > makes sense? Would that be helpful?
      > > > *
      > > > Realistically, that will mean that the reporting person thinks at
      > least
      > > > some teams in that firm at a point in time pass the Nokia Test.
      > > >
      > > > For those unfamiliar with the Nokia Test, I will post shortly a
      > blog entry
      > > > about it.
      > > >
      > > > Thanks, Joe
      > > >
      > > > Agile and Business <http://agileconsortium.blogspot.com/> blog
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
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