Re: Good user stories
- Just to echo - get Mike's books. I have been getting several "BA and
PMO types" adjusted to stories, backlogs, planning poker and the
rest. Moving people away from a highly date/ plan driven mindset is
hard enough. Asking people to understand the full gamut of
accompanying other agile-isms is a challenge. I have been using
slides that mike has posted and I have been bringing his latest books
to the "process and planning workgroup" where I am helping BA types
move to "backlogs of user effecting behaviors" manifest as stories.
Having the book around as a reference for these meetings (especially
some visual illustrations of the concepts) has been a big win for me/
--- In email@example.com, Mike Cohn <mike@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the recommendation of my books, Bill. Sample chapters
> such are on my website but even better, there are lots of PDFs on
> this topic on my site. Every time I speak at a conference or such
> post a PDF of the presentation. There will be many examples there.
> You may want to look at: http://www.mountaingoatsoftware.com/
> Mike Cohn
> Agile Estimating and Planning
> User Stories Applied
> On May 10, 2007, at 7:50 PM, Mike Bria wrote:
> > Bill --
> > As you allude to, both of Mike Cohn's recent books ('Agile
> > Estimation & Planning' & 'User Stories Applied') are good
> > for "why's"/"hows" as well as examples (and a "format" at least
> > worth trying out when working on helping others get the idea).
> > Another (very brief) reference I've always found success with
> > trying to pass the message to others is one by J.B. Rainsberger
> > well-known expert in the JUnit/TDD community). Check it out at
> > this link:
> > http://www.jbrains.info/weblog/browse/9
> > Cheers...
> > --MB
> > Bil Simser wrote:
> >> First off, thanks for a few tidbits about my CRUD-like stories
> >> post I wrote awhile ago. From the group I'm wondering if
> >> has a good reference to some real-world stories they have
> >> or seen that they can share as examples?
> >> I'm getting inundated with user stories at work with B.As and
> >> customers creating lots of stories that keep missing the mark
> >> why and are more how. I was hoping to hunt down some good
> >> (probably Mike Cohn's book if that's the one I'm thinking of
> >> be good) and wanted to ask the group here. So anyone got some
> >> examples to share that meet the INVEST criteria and are samples
> >> use for at least a discussion of what a good story is (seeing
> >> I'm exposed to a lot of bad ones lately).
> >> Thanks.