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  • Steven Gordon
    Then, I must have read that when I read your book several months ago. It must have planted a seed that was fertilized when I read Phil Armour s articles about
    Message 1 of 37 , Sep 8, 2003
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      Then, I must have read that when I read your book several months ago. It must have planted a seed that was fertilized when I read Phil Armour's articles about knowledge and software. 
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mike Beedle [mailto:beedlem@...]
      Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:42 AM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Scrum and Process Improvement


      Steven:

      The "knowledge arguement" is, btw, also the Scrum arguement.

      Ken and I talk about it in the Scrum book.  See Ch 6 section
      5,

      - Mike


      --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Steven Gordon
      <sagordon@a...> wrote:
      > Ken,
      >
      > Another approach to get to the same conclusion is Phil Armor's
      argument,
      > which I oversimplify a little as follows:
      > - software is executable knowledge.
      > - therefore, a major part of the software development process is the
      > development of the applicable knowledge.
      > - to be successful, we must have the flexibility and freedom to
      explore that
      > domain (with the customer, or at least guided by customer
      priorities and
      > feedback) in order to acquire/develop the applicable knowledge.
      > - if the domain is non-trivial, we cannot predict ahead of time
      where this
      > exploration will take us and how long it will take, but we can time
      box it
      > to keep it under control.
      >
      > I prefer this argument because the analogy between software
      development and
      > physical sciences is imperfect and may lead to false conclusions
      where the
      > analogy breaks down (I do not believe software development is a
      science or
      > even a field of engineering, as science and engineering are
      classically
      > defined, but that is a different subject).
      >
      > Steven Gordon
      > http://sf.asu.edu/
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From:      Ken Schwaber [mailto:ken.schwaber@v...]
      > Sent:      Wed 8/27/2003 5:57 PM
      > To:      scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      > Cc:     
      > Subject:      [scrumdevelopment] Scrum and Process Improvement
      >
      > I'm working on an article about why people have so much trouble
      > understanding Scrum, even me. I put it up on my website and welcome
      any
      > comments. www.controlchaos.com/scrumhard.pdf.
      > Ken Schwber
      >
      >
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    • Mike Beedle
      ... More on Ba here: http://www.scholars.nus.edu.sg/cpace/ht/thonglipfei/ba_concept.html
      Message 37 of 37 , Sep 11, 2003
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        > [Non98] Nonaka, I. and N. Konno (1998). "The Concept
        > Of "Ba": Building A Foundation For Knowledge
        > Creation." California Management Review 40 (3): 40 -
        > 54.

        More on Ba here:
        http://www.scholars.nus.edu.sg/cpace/ht/thonglipfei/ba_concept.html
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