Re: Do you count weekends in your burn down chart?
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "David H." <dmalloc@...> wrote:
> > >elaborate?
> > > I agree with most of what you're saying, and differ only in
> > > that drawing a trendline implies something *for* the team,
> > > rather than letting the team interpret the state of sprint
> > > for themselves.
> > I don't understand what you are getting at. Could you please
> >David has done a nice job clarifying my point. I don't like metrics
> Assuming we are talking about a simple, linear trendline and not a
> weighted one that takes other burn down charts into account, the
> trendline is just a rather inaccurate representation on a mathematical
> level where you are right that moment. Usually the confidence value
> will be quite high because we tend to get roughly the same amount of
> work done every day (I said roughly), however that should not fool you
> into thiking the amount of data you have collected is nearly enough to
> make a sensible projection. And most techies would know that?
at the sprint task level at all, especially metrics that try to imply
whether the team is going to finish the sprint *for them*. This
should be a call the team makes considering the history of the sprint
to date (recorded as the burndown), what is left to do, and the
risk/uncertainty impacting the sprint currently.
If the ScrumMaster wants to draw a trendline then I would be
suspicious about the liberties they are taking in making assumptions
from that trendline. If the team wants a trendline then again I think
something is wrong because the team is asking for a crutch to tell
them how things will turn out in the sprint. In my experience, Scrum
teams know how they are doing each day if there are well-run daily
scrum meetings and generally good communication across the team.
- I do not unless your team is planning on working weekends all the time, and lets hope not! :-)-Nick----- Original Message -----From: Ilja PreussSent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:13 AMSubject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Do you count weekends in your burn down chart?> Ron,
> I hope your question is rhetorical because clearly I can't
> answer something in a yahoo group posting that you've not
> been able to achieve in 2 years of work.
I didn't see anything in Ron's post suggesting that he wasn't able to help
> I agree this is a problem and I see it often myself. I don't
> think dumping additional metrics on top of the sprint
> burndown is going to solve this problem though.
Well, yes - just dumping it on the sprint burndown is probably not the most
effective way to use a trendline; it's certainly nothing I would suggest to
Take care, Ilja
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