Re: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Scrum project update - trials and tribulations
- On Saturday, April 29, 2006, at 10:22:02 PM, itmercenary wrote:
>> And of course, the problems with the five day sprint will just beAnd, I bet, still things aren't getting done.
>> worse with the seven day one.
> ...aaand that's exactly what's happening! It is odd and has thrown
> things right off. I'd say the PO is oblivious, but since winning
> their "victory", they've been very reticent and tend toward being
> very careful around me. They still don't get it, mind you...
Relationship with PO is obviously part of the issue. Were I you, I'd
also be having a chat with my boss about undercutting me.
If you're gonna do Agile, people need to have a basic understanding
of it. We'll touch on that further as we go on here ...
>> they commit to do. If that were being done, why did the team drawI'd sit with the PO privately and ask: "How's that pressure and
>> the line anywhere other than where they thought they could go?
> They didn't -- we literally reached an impasse with the PO where
> they refused to triage their shortlist of features for the iteration
> any further. The PO actually said: "That's as much as you're
> getting from me. I need these features."
intransigence and unwillingness to compromise working for you? Is it
getting you the product you want, when you want it? ... I didn't
think so. Now let's talk about how you can help get what you really
> So, the team decided that the only way to get around the impasse isEstimating and predicting what will happen can be helpful. The PO
> to actually bust the features into tasks to see where they stand --
> I know. I know.
needs to learn that holding people's feet to the first doesn't work.
Speaking of which, try this article. Maybe some folks there will
benefit from it:
Making the Date
It seems like every development project begins with the date, and
we're held responsible for "making the date". Making the date is
not a development responsibility. Here's why.
Updated with cool cartoon from Simon Baker.
> I'll admit it: No, I do not have CSM training - I need it and wasIt could help ... as could some help from some highly-paid
> going to register for it when this project landed in my lap.
consultant with a clue.
>> Extend the project with another sprint if you want more features.I'd think that some simple measurements of done, and not done, would
>> Longer sprints Do Not Help in my not at all humble opinion.
> Don't I know it. I just can't seem to make others accept it.
> Especially the PO.
begin to be convincing. Of course this train is going to wreck
before anyone there actually learns anything ...
>> Is the team actually doing Sprint planning ... ?There are times to do that, and times not to. I've done it more
> Merely reaping the whirlwind of years of waterfall planning
>> This isn't Scrum: it isn't Agile. And, I'm afraid it isn't going to
> I've already expressed that to a superior, among other things.
> Actually, I was prescient enough to have said it before we even
> began to my boss - but we still soldiered on.
often in the past than I would in the future.
> I'm going to finish this project as best I can, but I don't know ifAt least not without some training and discussion, I'd hope ...
> I'll recommend attempting another Scrum/agile project with the same
> PO and team.
> We all need training in various aspects of our disciplines.Indeed ...
Knowledge must come through action;
you can have no test which is not fanciful, save by trial. -- Sophocles