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    Mark - I agree. In fact, was going to post the same thought some time ago during another thread where someone talked about the benefit of training to learn
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      Mark - I agree.  In fact, was going to post the same thought some time ago during another thread where someone talked about the benefit of training to learn how to react to certain circumstances as opposed to methodically following a certain process.  In the years I played rugby (collegiate, club & super league levels - never capped), the ability for a team to recognize a situation, react to it, and communicate is what generally differentiated the winning teams from the losing teams.  Another analogy is that in both the sport and in the its software namesake, people need to be able to fill several rolls.  Yes, sometimes we need an expert (I really know databases, I can kick for goal very well, etc.), but other times it is the person who most quickly takes the initiate in a situation that is needed.

      On the downside, I think the Te Rauparaha Haka is the part of the (pre)game which is least like what I teach to my scrum teams.  The intention is to intimidate - I imagine this part as when the non-scrum-save y manager comes in to yell at the team and assign tasks.  Maybe what you should show (if you can find a video) is the Scotts Haka video on the same site.  Anyway, here is an English translation of the Haka:

      It is death! It is death!
      It is life! It is life!
      This is the hairy person
      Who caused the sun to shine.
      Keep abreast! Keep abreast!
      The rank! Hold fast!
      Into the sun that shines!


       scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com wrote:

      Message: 6
         Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 09:50:12 +1100
         From: Mark.Parssey@...
      Subject: Scrums & Scrum

      David wrote :

      "I've been wondering for sometime how many people in
      the Agile community have actually been in a scrum for

      I know of two - myself and Stephen Palmer - who both
      played rugby through secondonary school (middle/high
      school) in the UK."

      While I hesitate to claim to be a scrum practitioner I can claim to
      have a
      good level of rugby union experience having played for 20+ years up to
      state level & am still actively playing and coaching.

      The game as it is played now does have many ideas where I can make the
      correlation between the two.

      Obviously the scrum as a formal (but relatively short) restart to each
      with a robust contribution from everyone.

      There is also now a lot of emphasis on the agility and ability of the
      individuals. It was once very single tasked & specialised e.g. a prop
      fat, slow and held up the scrum now he is expected to scrummage but be
      able to get involved and make a contribution to all areas, to be able
      catch, run and pass.

      There has also been a great change in emphasis from very controlled
      plans directed from the coach. Players are expected to be able to make
      decisions based on what is happening in front of them, to be able to
      consult with each other and adapt the plan as required.

      I have read articles where Eddy Jones (Australian Wallabies Coach) say
      that he wants his players to be more agile.

      As well good coaches are trying to recognise & encourage creativity in

      A facet of the game probably not known to the non rugby community is
      ruck (basically someone is tackled and goes to ground and then you have
      recover possession). The need for speed, ability to back to your feet,
      support from team mates etc.. I see as a good metaphor for how we deal
      with the issues that knock you over every day.

      Communication is another area that is now so much more emphasised. Once
      everybody tended to either just follow the plan or run a one out play.
      we are trying to adapt all the time, or choose from numerous options
      need to talk to all those around you so much more.

      Also as in any sport a coach realises he is only as good as his players
      and he needs to recognise and acknowledge that, and to accept their

      Of course any metaphor will break down eventually but there are a few
      rugby coaches I would like to take to a scrum certification, and I
      think a
      few scrum masters who I would encourage to become sports coaches.

      I know as I have thought about what makes Scrum work I have thought
      how I can improve the processes I use as a coach and how I can improve


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