Re: [OT] Ca we please tone down the rhetoric?
I think there is something to be learned by the exchanges,
(barring "name calling", which should never be done on a list of off
the list of course):
Our "agile history"
Why is that important? Becaus, all of use can have a better idea as
to how the "agile universe" emerged (as Tobias said) and how it came
to be what is now.
Imagine understanding the physical universe without the "big bang"
Not knowing "the origin of agile software development", XP or Scrum,
would prevent us to realize where these methods/ideas came from, and
to possibly (mis)identify important pragmatic contexts:
where it works best/worst or does not work
why it works there, or why it doesn't
where it wouldn't work,
what kind of people does it work best with, etc.
Take these exchanges as if you were watching George Gamow -- the
author of the "big bang theory", arguing with that lady that claims
that the world is flat , created circa 1999, and supported by
turtles "all the way down".
Sorry -- *empirical evidence* shows otherwise,
 According to urban legend, a famous scientist was confronted by
a woman who insisted that the world is flat and rests on the back of
a giant turtle. "But what does the turtle rest on?" he asked, hoping
to disprove her belief by logic. "You're a clever man," she
replied, "But it's turtles all the way down!"
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "banshee858"
> Everyone has played a part in this miscommunication. Watching
> men disagree over something that seems trivial and betterdiscussed in
> private (or at least a different public forum than this) makes ME
> Let's all back away from our keyboards, take a deep breath and edit
> our posts before we send them, OK? Or is there something useful in
> the latest exchanges that I am missing?