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RE: [scrumdevelopment] ScrumMaster certification counting towards PMI PDUs

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  • Steven Ropa
    I have found that the best thing I got from the CSM course was the depth of understanding that makes it easier to communicate and teach scrum to my team
    Message 1 of 6 , Nov 30, 2005
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      I have found that the best thing I got from the CSM course was the depth
      of understanding that makes it easier to communicate and teach scrum to
      my team members.

      That and the poker cards. ;-)

      Steve

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graeme Matthew
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:12 AM
      > To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] ScrumMaster certification counting
      towards
      > PMI PDUs
      >
      > Mike thanks
      >
      > I agree with this.
      >
      > regards
      >
      >
      > Graeme
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Mike Cohn" <mike@...>
      > To: <scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:07 PM
      > Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] ScrumMaster certification counting
      towards
      > PMI PDUs
      >
      >
      > > I've seen more and more job ads that say "CSM required" or "CSM
      > > desired." That surprised me at first but it's a sign that employers
      > > and such do value it.
      > >
      > > Does CSM status mean the person has really "mastered" Scrum.
      > > Certainly not. It probably implies less than an MCSE or such.
      Someone
      > > here referred to it as "two days of med school." I find Scrum to be
      > > a logical way to work and it's often described as common sense;
      > > however, I don't think much of it is intuitive (at least not to
      > > everyone). I find that a two-day CSM class is enough to open
      peoples'
      > > minds to a new way of working but doesn't give them mastery of the
      > > topic. Many leave a CSM class with a lot more than that but I want
      to
      > > achieve at least that in the CSM classes I teach.
      > >
      > > Regards,
      > > Mike Cohn
      > > Author:
      > > Agile Estimating and Planning
      > > User Stories Applied
      > > www.mountaingoatsoftware.com
      > >
      > >
      > > On Nov 29, 2005, at 11:58 PM, Graeme Matthew wrote:
      > >
      > >> Mike
      > >>
      > >> Im looking into doing the Scrum Certification course in Melbourne,
      > >> April
      > >> next year, Jens Oostergaard is running it.
      > >>
      > >>> From your experience are employers (clients) starting to respect
      and
      > >> recognise this as a good foundation for scrum?
      > >>
      > >> Im hoping to do the course to obtain the knowledge and create a
      > >> foundation
      > >> for moving forward. A large number of certification programs such
      > >> as MCSD,
      > >> MCSE are more of a piece of paper than anything else, we have seen
      > >> people
      > >> with these certifications for example that dont understand basic
      > >> items such
      > >> as CGI, HTTP, they know how to click and configure via wizards etc
      > >> but I
      > >> have found that when things go wrong that they are lost. Im saying
      > >> this as a
      > >> generic statement as their are a lot fo good certified people out
      > >> there.
      > >>
      > >> Thanks
      > >>
      > >> Regards
      > >>
      > >> Graeme
      > >>
      > >> ----- Original Message -----
      > >> From: "Mike Cohn" <mike@...>
      > >> To: <scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com>
      > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 5:39 PM
      > >> Subject: [scrumdevelopment] ScrumMaster certification counting
      > >> towards PMI
      > >> PDUs
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>> Yes, you can get PDUs for attending a Certified ScrumMaster (CSM)
      > >>> class. Since it's a two-day class, you get 16 PDU (1 per hour).
      > >>>
      > >>> Regards,
      > >>> Mike Cohn
      > >>> Author:
      > >>> Agile Estimating and Planning
      > >>> User Stories Applied
      > >>> www.mountaingoatsoftware.com
      > >>>
      > >>>
      > >>> On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:04 PM, alan_baldry wrote:
      > >>>
      > >>>> Hello there,
      > >>>>
      > >>>> I am a practising Software Development Project Manager and I am
      > >>>> keen to
      > >>>> become certified as a ScrumMaster.
      > >>>>
      > >>>> I am also certified to the PMI's PMBOK. To retain my PMI
      > >>>> certification
      > >>>> I am required to achieve 60 Personal Development Units (PDU) over
      > >>>> a 3
      > >>>> year period. PDUs are acquired by self study and, primarily,
      > >>>> undertaking course related to Project Management.
      > >>>>
      > >>>> I would like to know is if I do undertake the ScrumMaster
      > >>>> certification
      > >>>> course, am I awarded any PDUs and if so how many?
      > >>>>
      > >>>> Many thanks for your assistance.
      > >>>>
      > >>>> Regards
      > >>>> Alan Baldry
      > >>>>
      > >>>>
      > >>>>
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