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  • John Parkinson
    Close enough - we actually used program internally and release for clients - especially those who want the point of time model. John Parkinson Phone: +1 847
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      Close enough – we actually used program internally and release for clients – especially those who want the point of time model.

       

      John Parkinson

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      From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brad Appleton
      Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:26 AM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] Release Manager and Project Manager (was Re: Some comments from an interested observer)

       

      Thanks John. That helps me understand what you mean by "Release
      Manager". So if a "program" is defined as a collection of related
      projects, would your "Release" be akin toa "Program" and your "Release
      Manager" would be the program manager for the progfram that is the release?

      John Parkinson wrote:
      > Project managers run projects - specific deliverable commitments with a team
      > of resources self organized to meet them. Their role is to make sure that a
      > team has what it needs to get their deliverables done, maintain
      > communication with the product owner and target users, track
      > progress.....even do some of the work.
      >
      > Generally speaking (and for us) a Release consists of a (perhaps large)
      > group of projects - some development teams, some infrastructure build out,
      > some training, some awareness building and communication.....lots of moving
      > parts that all have to be there to complete the Release successfully.
      >
      > We find it useful to have someone responsible (sort of chief cat herder) for
      > all this. The Release Manager sees the overall dependencies that we have
      > tried to eliminate from the individual project teams concerns and has some
      > responsibilities for overall issue resolution that can't be handled
      > effectively by the teams or the product owners.
      >
      > A release generally lasts between 90 days and one year, and may be either
      > point of time (everything goes into production at once) or "rolling"
      > (deliverables are put into production as they become available) depending on
      > what the client wants and can tolerate.
      >
      > John Parkinson
      > Phone: +1 847 235 1791
      > Fax: +1 503 214 8517
      > Mobile : +1 847 877 4520
      > parkijo@...
      > AOL IM: parkijo
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Brad Appleton
      > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 9:55 PM
      > To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Release Manager and Project Manager (was Re:
      > Some comments from an interested observer)
      >
      > John Parkinson wrote:
      >  > Greenfield developments I have data for actually show the team doing
      >  > essentially the same thing - locking down some decisions early on so
      >  > that they have fewer variables to manage as the iteration proceeds.
      >  > Teams don't always do this well and don't always make consistent
      >  > decisions within a release - which is why we still need release
      > managers...
      >
      > Hi John!
      > When you say "release manager" above, can you clarify what the means in
      > this context? Is it someone who is the "project manager" for a
      > particular release? Or do you regard release manager and project manager
      > as different roles? (and if so, what are the responsibilities of the
      > rel-mgr and how do they differ from that of the proj-mgr?)
      >
      > --
      > Brad Appleton <brad@...> www.bradapp.net
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