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  • Alleman, Glen B.
    Jan 14, 2003
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      Linda,

       

      Thanks for this as well.

       

      We�ve got a DCAA compliant EVMS tracking and reporting system we�re integrating with �agile� methods. Mostly the obvious XP stuff (PP, UT, FT, CM) � all the back end practices. The SCRUM practices seem to be a better fit from a �formal process� point of view, so our efforts are now directed at �formalizing� our SOP for development and infrastructure around something that is not home grown.

       

      I�m looking for similar domain folks (DOE, DoD, etc) who have adapted legacy processes (CMM Level 4 here) along with agency orders to more agile methods. The EVMS foundation needs to stay in place and we have done that by reducing the granularity (or is it increasing) of �testable requirements� to items delivered every 2 to 3 days. By allocating the BCWS across this collection and calling it an iteration EV can be booked while remaining agile (within the scope of the iteration). This work was originally done at Raytheon but is now being syndicated at other sites here in Denver Metro.

       

      Any experience reports would be helpful. We�re preparing a paper for the DOE CIO conference as well as SLC Agile describing our experiences.

       

      Glen B. Alleman

      Director, Program Management Office

      Information Technology

      Kaiser�Hill LLC

      Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site

      10808 Highway 93, Unit B, Bldg 060, MV72

      Golden, Colorado 80502

      Office: 303.966.5865� Nextel: 303.994.0874

       

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Linda Rising [mailto:risingl@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:07 PM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] Don't Try to Sell XP

       

      Glen,

      I also write periodically for an on-line newsletter for DDC-I, a company that writes
      software tools for embedded development, RTOS, compilers and FAA Certification.

      Here's an article about agile methods

      http://www.ddci.com/news_vol2num9.shtml

      There's a later one about agile meetings but I like the one on my web site better:

      www.lindarising.org -- click on Articles



      Linda


      Linda Rising wrote:

      Glen,

      There was an entire issue of CrossTalk (October 2002) devoted to Agile SW Development:

      http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/crosstalk/2002/10/index.html

      There are articles by Jim Highsmith and Alistair Cockburn and some experience
      reports that might be of interest.




      Linda


      Alleman, Glen B. wrote:

      Alan,

      I need to get in the loop with SCRUM and our EVMS approaches we've
      brought from aerospace. Any suggested starting point other than the web
      site and books. Maybe a few papers from aerospace and government agency
      users listening in.

      Glen B. Alleman
      Director, Program Management Office
      Information Technology
      Kaiser-Hill LLC
      Rocky Flats Environmental Technology Site
      10808 Highway 93, Unit B, Bldg 060, MV72
      Golden, Colorado 80502
      Office: 303.966.5865� Nextel: 303.994.0874
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alan Shalloway [mailto:alshall@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:13 AM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [scrumdevelopment] Don't Try to Sell XP

      Adriano:
      I know you're kidding.� Actually, it's something like Scrum I usually
      "sell" because, as you say, it appeals to managers and actually a lot
      of
      developers as well.� The point, of course, is you don't sell
      technology
      or methodology but results.� Thanks again for finding this.

      Alan Shalloway, Sr. Consultant, CEO
      office: 425-313-3065. mobile: 425-531-0810

      Net Objectives' vision is effective software development without
      suffering. Our mission is to assist software development teams in
      accomplishing this through a combination of training and mentoring.


      -----Original Message-----
      From: Adriano Comai [mailto:comai@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:43 AM
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [scrumdevelopment] Don't Try to Sell XP

      Alan,

      maybe you could add to the title: "Try to Sell Scrum, Instead". (I'm
      joking...)

      Simplifying: XP appeals to developers. Scrum appeals to managers, and
      is
      less frightening for them.

      The sound practices of XP help to achieve results, but focusing the
      communication with management on those practices is not effective, if
      you
      need to persuade management to make a change.

      Adriano Comai
      http://www.analisi-disegno.com

      -----Messaggio originale-----
      Da: Alan Shalloway <alshall@...>
      [mailto:alshall@...]
      Inviato: martedi 7 gennaio 2003 18.09
      A: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Oggetto: [scrumdevelopment] thanks re Don't Try to Sell XP


      Thanks to Adriano for finding me a copy.� BTW: I updated it and
      fixed some typos (who put those in there? :)

      If you haven't seen it, it's at
      http://www.netobjectivesbooks.com/N_O_BookFeedback_Wiki/
      owbase/ow.asp?DontTryToSellXP

      (concatentate the two lines)

      Alan Shalloway
      Net Objectives


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