57587Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Time tracking for building software
- Dec 17, 2013
Thank you to all that have responded! Your feedback and articles have been tremendously helpful!
GregOn Dec 17, 2013 2:38 PM, "Charles Bradley - Professional Scrum Trainer and Coach" <chuck-lists2@...> wrote:Greg,
You might also want to see this article about Scrum time tracking written by Scrum Co-Creator Jeff Sutherland:
Professional Scrum Trainer
From: Kurt Häusler <kurt.haeusler@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: [SCRUMDEVELOPMENT] Time tracking for building software
most companies I have worked at that used Scrum required such time tracking. Mostly because the information was required for their time & materials billing approach. Sometimes to give the PMs an idea about how much they need to scale developer estimates (I mean initial hour estimates required to write a customer offer, not the agile estimating used in sprint and release planning) in order to get numbers they can put in a offer or contract.
I am opposed to it, and see it only leading to many types of dysfunction. It simply doesn’t suit the nature of the work.
On 16 Dec 2013, at 17:59, Greg Robinson <z00foodagile@...> wrote:
> Companies that want to capitalize their expenses for building software need their development teams to track time they spend on building and testing software. Has anyone heard of a company requiring their teams to track the time they spend as part of the tasks in the Agile Project Management Tool being used?
> For example, if a user story consists of 5 tasks and task1 was estimated at 6hours but it only took 3 hours to complete, than the developer is required to enter the actual effort of 3 hours into the tool for time tracking purposes.
> I can understand tracking the estimated vs actuals over the course of a sprint or two in order to help improve team agility and estimation practices, but I've never heard of it being mandated as a time entry system. This can be a problem particularly for mature teams that don't use tasks or task hours.
> What have you seen work? What downsides do you see to this?
> Looking for comments or thoughts.
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