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55322Re: [scrumdevelopment] Like to do Scrum certification, please guide me

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  • Charles Bradley - Scrum Coach CSP CSM PSM
    Jun 24, 2012
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      I basically agree with the sentiment that reading is not enough to learn how to do Scrum *well*, which is why I suggested in my email
          > and then practicing what I learned on real life Scrum teams
      that *practice* is required if one wants to learn to do Scrum well (or, in your terms, "truly learn Scrum").

      OTOH, the OP was looking for the cheapest certification route using self study, so that's where I was coming from in my advice.

      For the most part, I went the self study route myself, so in a way, I'm defending that route as a valid one.  I don't know if I'd call myself an expert on this list, but I certainly call myself an "expert" to the other 99% of the population.  Mark, I appreciate the compliment, especially coming from you, none the less.

      A big part of my self study route was interacting on this list and getting awesome informal coaching from the people on this list.  On that note, I once again thank you all for the help.
      Charles Bradley

      From: Mark Levison <mark@...>
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 7:56 PM
      Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] Like to do Scrum certification, please guide me

      On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Charles Bradley - Scrum Coach CSP CSM PSM I <chuck-lists2@...> wrote:

      I don't agree with Mark on this, but it's probably just semantics.  I think you can learn about Scrum just fine from the Scrum Guide and other books.  Learning to do Scrum *well*, now that's a different story.

       Here's what I find. I ask students to do a fair amount of prereading before my courses. Then we discuss Scrum @ 1000 ft. Even after doing that people make many surprising discovers on Day 2 when they run their first sprint. The discovery's aren't usually about the mechanics of Scrum rather they're about things like: how collaborative it can be, how retrospectives really work, how teams can change even in 20 minute sprint.

      No words on a page can really convey these insights well.

      Charles I think the key difference is that you've long since become an expert. As a result you already a good framework of experience to test new ideas in. When you read something its easier to see where it might fit.

      Mark Levison

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