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55174Re: [scrumdevelopment] team-based orgs/Valve software

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  • Michael James
    Jun 1, 2012
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      Yeah, Jean's aware of Semco, one that typically comes up, and we've certainly been hearing a lot about Valve's employee handbook lately.  I suspect the reason we hear the same examples over and over is that there really aren't many examples of large organizations fully embracing the philosophy Jean describes yet.  Some of the others we hear about as success stories from the consultant or author's perspective turn out to be mirages according to people working there, or their future performance.  I'm reluctant to name them here, but you can probably think of three or four examples.  

      Many Scrum implementations are so compromised they come nowhere near Scrum's actual definitions.  Other cases of actual Scrum in large organizations are small islands cordoned off from the larger org's legacy practices.

      If all the above are true, what would it mean?  Kent Beck wrote that it took 50 years for Lean Manufacturing to become common practice.  Are we 15 years into a 50-year adoption cycle?  Or are small organizations going to eat large organizations for lunch?


      On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Jesse Houwing wrote:


      I think the means she’s looking for other organisations that use a similar orgizational model, so flat, everybody can decide where and what to do etc.
      From our training material I remember Semco as an example company that used this model in hopes to avoid bankruptcy. They managed to do so. There’s even books about it.
      I expect there to be others as well.
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      Are you looking for the employee handbook ? If yes, you can find a link for that in Steve Denning's article


      On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dave Rooney <daverooneyca@...> wrote:

      Not a case study per se, but Steve Denning wrote about Valve in his blog on Forbes back in April: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2012/04/27/a-glimpse-at-a-workplace-of-the-future-valve/


      On 30 May 2012 12:23, Jean Richardson <jean@...> wrote:

      I have been doing research on team-based organizations trying to turn up enduring examples among mid- to large sized organizations.  There’s plenty of theoretical “how-to” out there.


      I expect some of you may be aware of the Valve employee handbook being posted on the web.  Has anyone actually talked to Valve?  I’ve seen postings on the web that indicate the handbook is “real,” but when I was finally able to find a phone number for the organization, I was only able to get to voice mail at the terminus of all the working options in their automated attendant (some options were circular).  I’m beginning to think this org is visionary, but quite small.  Is anyone aware of a case study on Valve?


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