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54928Re: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Looking for Advise on Standup, burndown, and tracking progress

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  • Bret Wortman
    Apr 16, 2012
      I should have gotten that. Thanks. Makes perfect sense in context.


      Bret Wortman



      On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM, tony_t_tubbs <tony_t_tubbs@...> wrote:
       

      Sorry,
      Proof of concept.



      --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Bret Wortman <bret@...> wrote:
      >
      > I may be alone here, but... POC? Definition in this context, please? I
      > can't get past "Point Of Contact".
      >
      >
      > *Bret Wortman***
      >
      >
      >
      > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, tony_t_tubbs <tony_t_tubbs@...>wrote:
      >
      > > **

      > >
      > >
      > > Because this is a POC with a fair amount of R&D involved, it is hard to
      > > say if we can get things done without overtime or not. The gut feel is that
      > > there is a risk that we cannot.
      > >
      > > Sprint review is another struggle, but we do talk about what went well and
      > > what didn't. The things that didn't so far seem to fit into one of two
      > > categories - environment or standups. We are slowing addressing items in
      > > both cases, but these still are the biggest areas of impact.
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Burrows <andy@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Hey Tony,
      > > >
      > > > Are the total story points for all the work that needs to be done by June
      > > > 1st possible with the existing team without working overtime? If so, I'd
      > > > work on helping management track your team's progress through your build
      > > > iterations. Could you describe your current sprint review process?
      > > >
      > > > Andrew
      > > >
      > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, tony_t_tubbs <tony_t_tubbs@>wrote:

      > > >
      > > > > **
      > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Management's desire has been and is to use ScrumWorks so they can run
      > > > > reports so they can see progress. The team often feels like this is
      > > forcing
      > > > > a tool that doesn't always fit. Our current situation is a POC sprint
      > > that
      > > > > has a lot of R&D to do. We do not know hours like we might otherwise.
      > > We
      > > > > have estimated story points relative to each other. We know when we
      > > start,
      > > > > and we know when and what MUST be done - a functioning POC of specific
      > > key
      > > > > concepts and business functions by June 1 as proof we can do a full
      > > > > implementation.
      > > > >
      > > > > Really, the POC containing the stories we've identified MUST be done.
      > > > > Whatever that takes. Longer hours or what not. The management wants
      > > hours
      > > > > in scrumworks so they can see if we are on track or not. I've suggested
      > > > > burndown only stores, or perhaps story points. (Which doesn't fit into
      > > > > ScrumWorks reporting I guess) They claim this is too high level to make
      > > > > adjustments, that being off track will not show in the chart until
      > > it's too
      > > > > late. By then longer hours or adding people or whatever will just be
      > > too
      > > > > late.
      > > > >
      > > > > Note that I personally, and expect many of you, would put this scenario
      > > > > into ScrumButt category. Assuming there's nothing I can do about that
      > > for
      > > > > the moment, please advise what I can actually do to best meet the
      > > > > needs/desires. If it can be done in a way that could convince
      > > management
      > > > > there's a better way, then all the better for me and my fellow
      > > developers.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks,
      > > > > TT
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --
      > > > Andrew Burrows
      > > > Managing Producer, Large Animal Games
      > > > Call me: 212-989-4312
      > > > Follow me: @readytoscrumble
      > > > We're Hiring: http://largeanimal.com/jobs
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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