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52376Re: [scrumdevelopment] How do we enforce the team to run CMMI process without authority?

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  • Dan Rawsthorne
    Sep 3, 2011
      Yes, you can put the CMMI constraints in as part of "Done" for each individual Item. And, as George says, CMMI Level 5 means that the team is improving itself, so you need to put that in as part of the process - probably tacking it onto the existing Retrospective process that scrum provides.

      Dan  ;-)

      Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, PMP, CST

      Author of Exploring Scrum: the Fundamentals,


      On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:26 AM, George Dinwiddie <lists@...> wrote:


      One thing to consider is that CMMI level 5 is "Optimizing." That means
      that you're measuring your process and making adjustments accordingly.
      If your process is a flat "the team shall work this way" then you're
      probably doing a lousy job at optimizing. If only those at the top are
      choosing how to improve the measures, then improvement is much slower.
      Along with that, such enterprises often choose the wrong thing to
      measure, and while their numbers go up, their success may not.

      CMMI level 5 does NOT imply that you're doing a good job.

      - George

      On 9/3/11 1:08 AM, Joshua Partogi wrote:
      > Thanks Dan,
      > This is well said. I am getting the grasp of it now. So I guess from
      > your explanation the management manage the strategies whilst the
      > development team manage the tactics. CMIIW. As part of the strategy, the
      > team must follow the CMMI constraints. Can we put this CMMI constraints
      > as a definition of "Done"? So the function or product is not deemed as
      > "Done" if it is not within CMMI constraints. Please advise.
      > Kindest regards,
      > Joshua.
      > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Dan Rawsthorne
      > <dan.rawsthorne@... <mailto:dan.rawsthorne@...>>

      > wrote:
      > __
      > Teams are only self-managed within the constraints they are given,
      > like definitions of done, and so on. So, you give them the CMMI
      > constraints, and they figure out how to meet them. That's
      > self-organization. You micromanage the product (including the
      > constraints, which are part of the product), and don't micromanage
      > the team. It's not anarchy, or a self-directed team. Direction is
      > given, micromanagement is not.
      > Dan ;-)
      > Dan Rawsthorne, PhD, PMP, CST
      > Author of /Exploring Scrum: the Fundamentals/
      > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Joshua Partogi
      > <joshua.java@... <mailto:joshua.java@...>> wrote:
      > __
      > Hi,
      > So in the organization that is CMMI Level 5, how do we ensure
      > that the CMMI processes are run and employed by the team without
      > telling them to do it because Scrum team is self-managed. Has
      > anyone here any experience being in a CMMI L5 organization
      > running Scrum?
      > Thanks heaps for the suggestions.

      * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com
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