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49893Re: [scrumdevelopment] Re: Having the Product Owner in team Estimation Meetings

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  • daswartz@prodigy
    Jan 20, 2011
      Hello Ron,

      Thursday, January 20, 2011, 7:18:32 AM, you wrote:

      > Hello, langvtran. On Thursday, January 20, 2011, at 8:01:58 AM,
      > you wrote:

      >> What is the correct role for the PO to play here?
      >> I'd like to disagree on the view that PO's should not influence the
      >> estimates of the team. I believe the PO does and should influence the
      >> estimates of the team. The goal is to ensure that minimal marketable
      >> feature are being delivered first. She can do this by listening to her
      >> team and then fine tuning the acceptance criteria. Another example is
      >> when an estimate seems "off", she should ask why. It could be the team
      >> was thinking of building something more complex than she needs. Or there
      >> could a very valid reason that she didn't realize before.
      >> This should be in a team context and not command-and-control. The PO
      >> does not get final say on estimates but should be allowed her input. If
      >> the PO can convince the team to decrease their estimate, so be it. If
      >> the team cannot complete the story that sprint because it was bigger
      >> than expected, it would be a good topic for the retrospective.

      > In the scenario you describe, I would not say that the PO is
      > influencing estimates. She is using estimates to change what she
      > asks for, to make what she asks for smaller.

      > She's not saying "do that faster or cheaper". She's saying "oh,
      > that's expensive, how about if we did this instead?"

      And that is a VERY good thing... And one of the best reasons to have
      the Product Owner in the meeting.

      Doug Swartz
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