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35566Re: [scrumdevelopment] Product Owner overtasked by Scrum?

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  • Vikrama Dhiman
    Dec 31, 2008
      IMHO, any reasonable size project would not allow "The Product Owner" to perform "All UAT Testing" herself as well as specify "all of what the system should be".
      Product Owner is supposed to one point contact for the team for feedback, prioritization and explanation. She can rely on a battery of testers, analysts, marketing executives if she feels like that.
      I am a Product Owner and my team consists of analysts and marketing people. I treat my role as one where I know everything that has gone, should go and is going on in my product. I do know that the product will become huge in not so near future and then "my product" will be a part of "overall product" - but thats a problem for another day.
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      --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@...> wrote:
      From: Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@...>
      Subject: Re: [scrumdevelopment] Product Owner overtasked by Scrum?
      To: scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 4:49 AM

      On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@ acm.org> wrote:
      > Hello, Adam. On Wednesday, December 31, 2008, at 12:18:05 PM, you
      > wrote:
      >> Well, I think the PO is responsible for "acceptance" . However, it
      >> would be nice if we involved an actual user somewhere... and maybe
      >> someone who knew a thing about testing... This is why, in the XP
      >> community, we stopped talking about "Customer" as a singular entity
      >> and started saying "Whole Team." Quite a while ago, in fact ;-)
      > Customer is a Role. Whole Team is a practice. They aren't
      > interconvertible.

      Customer is a role. "Onsite Customer" /was/ a practice. Whole Team is
      a newer practice which was borrowed from LSD. Once "Whole Team" was
      introduced as a practice we stopped talking about "Onsite Customer" as
      a practice, because "Whole Team" better captured what we were trying
      to say. It's true, nonetheless, that a lot of us used to think of
      "Customer" as an individual representative on the team, and many of us
      don't think of "Customer" that way any more.

      "Product Owner" is much the same. "Product Owner" is an individual on
      the team. The need to represent "Customer" is bigger than that one
      individual, however, and I think that the Product Owner is the final
      gatekeeper of that but the "whole" Scrum Team is responsible.

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