17144Re: [scrumdevelopment] There is not, and never has been an "Agile Methodology" - Was "who the hell"
- Nov 2, 2006
> > Great point, but I will submit that even with all the differentErrr, let's back up. How much experience have you had in trying to
> > breeds, everyone will still be able to agree, "Yep, that's a
> > squirrel". Right now, people are pointing to an obviously soon to be
> > road killed opossum, and saying "That's an example of a healthy
> > squirrel"
> Well, yes. So?
implement Agile practices into a waterfall environment.
Also what is your background, are you a developer, manager, or up in
the CXO ranks?
It all makes a difference.
> And I don't understand at all how management buy in entered the stage,Everything.
> why you get waterfall when you don't have it, and what that has to do
> with the non-existence of an "Agile method".
> Well, that's obviously already happening with the brands existing. AreYes, yes I am.
> you saying that without the brands it would be even worse?
> I'm all for making clear what Agile is, and for pointing out when theAs far as I'm concerned, this is the definitive definition
> name is used for things that don't look like something I'd call Agile.
> I'm not sure that it needs brands to do that. In fact I think it couldGreat. Make as many as you want. All I care about is that someone
> be argued that the existence of different brands might very well induce
> - or at least legitimate - the creation of even more brands.
I say that by picking one, they are more likely to get infected by the
culture, and that is what we are really talking about here a huge
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