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156RE: [XP] RE: [scrumdevelopment] Agile and CMM are contradictory

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  • Mike Beedle
    Dec 6, 2001
      > > I see efforts to make things like Scrum and XP CMM compliant,
      > > or efforts to make the CMM agile, as complete nonsense because
      > > these approaches are _fundamentally different_.
      > >
      > > So beware: until processes are described as emergent and
      > > self-organizing by the CMM, there is no overlap and no point
      > > of comparison,
      > I don't see teams making decisions between CMM and XP/Agile. I have
      > encountered a few, but they were still in the very early learning stages
      > about methods and process.
      > Rather, things like CMM, ISO, and other standards are typically
      > constraints
      > to which teams must conform. Across the spectrum of implementations that
      > can qualify for various CMM levels, there will be some that are more Agile
      > than others. The more agile the compliant implementation the
      > better. It is
      > not about conformance to an Agile standard, just as is it not about
      > conformance to CMM. If is about better satisfying our customers.
      > So, I disagree that this is nonsense. I believe the mission is
      > to make all
      > teams better, whatever their constraints. If exploring Agile CMM or
      > attempting the make variants of Scrum or XP compliant leads to CMM teams
      > that are more agile, then more power to those that are making the effort.


      There is only one minor problem.

      True agile teams will rely on cycles of inspection, adaptation
      and self-organization but to conform to the CMM process framework
      one _must_ conform to an ETVX process description format.

      This makes it impossible to be on both sides of the fence.

      Until the CMM is allows processes to be self-organized
      and emergent, we will have two clearly distinct sides,

      - Mike

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