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1393RE: [scrumdevelopment] IEEE SWEBOK Is Looking for Reviewers--They Don't Even Mention XP, Agile, etc.

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  • Alleman, Glen B.
    Jun 3 6:30 AM

      As a reviewer of SWEBOK this is a problem in a larger context. SWEBOK is
      an academic framework for the teaching of Software Engineering. The
      first thought is that XP and agile method are transitory in the
      engineering world. Meaning they are the "current" methods and describing
      them in a "body of knowledge" is risky. Not because of their value to
      the software world but because they are too far down in the food chain.
      It would belike teaching GIS methods for waste water remediation in an
      environmental engineering Body of Knowledge - critically important but
      only so once you reach the field.

      On the other hand agile methods have become recognizable in the broader
      community and they need to be addressed somewhere besides the forums and
      trade rags. I haven't received the review package yet (June is the plan)
      so I'll make my meager effort to ask the power that be - "why not
      mention agile methods."

      BTW the SWEBOK is a normative standard and as such does not address the
      participative and heuristic approaches to methodologies.

      Glen B. Alleman
      VP, Program Management Offfice
      CH2M HILL
      Rocky Flast Environmental Technology Site
      303.966.5865 Office
      303.994.0874 Cell

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mike Cohn [mailto:mike@...]
      Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 1:33 PM
      To: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com;
      scrumdevelopment@yahoogroups.com; xpdenver@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [scrumdevelopment] IEEE SWEBOK Is Looking for Reviewers--They
      Don't Even Mention XP, Agile, etc.

      The IEEE SWEBOK is currently under public review and they are looking
      additional reviewers. Since they don't even mention XP, Agile, Scrum,
      it would seem that they could use our help as reviewers. See the message
      below or go to www.swebok.org to register as a reviewer or just read the


      -----Original Message-----
      From: seworld-owner@...
      On Behalf Of Pierre Bourque
      Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:35 AM
      To: SEWORLD@...
      Subject: (SEWORLD) SWEBOK Guide Call for Reviewers

      Call for Reviewers
      Guide to the Software Engineering Body of Knowledge (Trial Version)
      Review Period: June 2, 2003 to June 30, 2003
      To sign up: Please fill in the electronic form found at www.swebok.org

      The purpose of this review cycle is to gather proposed changes to be
      incorporated in the 2003 version of the Guide to Software Engineering
      of Knowledge (SWEBOK) scheduled for year-end. The three review cycles
      leading to the publication of the Trial Version in May 2001 (version
      were based on expert opinions. Now that the Trial Version of the Guide
      been available for two years and has been used in varying contexts for
      different purposes, strong preference will be given to changes based on
      trial usage.

      The purpose of the Guide is to characterize the contents of the software

      engineering discipline, to promote a consistent view of software
      engineering worldwide, to clarify the place of, and set the boundary of,

      software engineering with respect to other disciplines, and to provide a

      foundation for curriculum development and individual licensing material.

      All deliverables are available without any charge at www.swebok.org .

      The Trial Version of the SWEBOK Guide was endorsed in 2001 for trial
      by the Board of Governors of the IEEE Computer Society and is undergoing

      the final steps for publication as a Technical Report by the
      Organization for Standardization (ISO TR 19759). The Guide to the
      Engineering Body of Knowledge (SWEBOK) is a project of the IEEE Computer

      Society with corporate support from Boeing, the Canadian Council of
      Professional Engineers, Construx Software, MITRE, the National Institute
      Standards and Technology, the National Research Council of Canada,
      Software, Raytheon, and SAP Labs (Canada).

      Close to 500 reviewers from over 40 countries participated in the three
      review cycles leading to the Trial Version providing roughly eight
      comments. Each individual reviewer comment, the identity of the
      who provided the comment and its resolution are publicly available on
      www.swebok.org. The next review cycle will be conducted with a similar

      The SWEBOK Guide seeks to identify and describe the subset of software
      engineering knowledge that is generally accepted. Generally accepted
      knowledge applies to most projects most of the time, and widespread
      consensus validates its value and effectiveness (1). A complementary
      definition states that generally accepted knowledge should be included
      the study material for a software engineering licensing examination that

      graduates would take after gaining four years of work experience.
      this criterion is specific to the U.S. style of education and does not
      necessarily apply to other countries, it was deemed useful. Research
      topics and specialized topics are therefore out of scope.

      The Trial Version is organized into 10 chapters dealing with the
      Knowledge Areas: software requirements, software design, software
      construction, software testing, software maintenance, software
      configuration management, software engineering management, software
      engineering process, software engineering tools and methods, and
      quality. The SWEBOK Guide also includes by reference a list of related

      disciplines that are important to software engineers.

      Please note that adequate information to implement a recommended change
      must be provided by the reviewer for it to be considered. Well described

      recommended actions will be given more attention and credence than vague
      imprecise ones. All reviewers will be recognized by having their name
      the list of contributors. Reviewers will send in their proposed changes

      via a Web interface. Detailed review instructions will be sent to all
      signed-up reviewers on June 2.

      To sign up as a reviewer, please fill in the electronic form available

      For further information, please contact Pierre
      Bourque (pbourque@...)

      (1) Project Management Institute, A Guide to the Project Management Body
      Knowledge, see www.pmi.org

      Pierre Bourque
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