Re: Weblos Outdoors Program - OWL
- I've done a combined BALOO/WOLT and have done them apart. We have
better luck with the "apart", particularly since the two courses are
really not a continuation (like an Outdoor Skills 101 and a 102).
BALOO is for brand new leaders/families learning how to camp, camp
safely and how to buy stuff and how to cook. OLS-WL is intended to
teach Webelos leaders how to teach the outdoor group of activity
badges to the boys and how to introduce the Weebs to the patrol
The current OLS-WL syllabus has provisions for buttoning it onto
IOLS, but like someone said earlier, I believe it would tend to
encourage the WLs to start doing Boy Scout stuff with the boys too
soon. We want to just whet their appetite as Weebs so they have
something to gain in their FYE year.
Just my 2¢...
--- In email@example.com, Brant Lippincott <brant@...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Funny.... This topic comes up over the weekend that I am
out "doing" an OWL/BALOO.
> I would just like to echo most of the thoughts on this & have a
couple of additional thoughts.........
> We, too, run a combined OWL/BALOO. We combine the opening
segment - In BALOO, this is called "Aims and Purposes" - the OWL
segment is called "Webelos Scout Outdoor Program". Both of these
essentially cover the Outdoor program Guide (13-631). And as
someone mentioned the tents, campsites, fires, the noontime meal,
etc. We separate for planning & all the "what do you do on a
> We have the OWL folks arrive @7:30 on Saturday & set up camp. The
BALOO folks arrive at 8:00. We roll at 8:30. We send the BALOO
folks home late afternoon on Saturday & the OWLs late morning on
Sunday. We recently started to offer the BALOO folks to stay
overnight. So far, I've only had one taker.
> The BS staff runs IOLS in the next campsite over at the same
time. We join them for the campfire Saturday evening - most of the
time. We tried jumping into some of their segments, but I really
don't think the Webelos leaders are ready to learn about the axe-
yard. We run a segment on pocket knoves - since that is always an
interest with the boys and we pick up a few new leaders - who did
not do Bears.
> A couple of years ago, we tried asking the Webelos leaders to take
IOLS, but in about 1-1/2 years, only had about 8 take it.
> We had a great time this weekend. Only slightly damp - a couple
of overnite showers. The heavy stuff was far away...
> For the Boys,
> Brant Lippincott
> Cub Training Chair
> Great Plains District - Circle 10 Council
> PS: Pet peeve.... Webelos is the word. Always Webelos. Not
Webelo or Webeloes...
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- The OWL that was a part of the larger syllabus was retired in 2005 when we (FINALLY!) received the new training. (The rest of the syllabus that the OWL was in, was retired in 2001 when Cub Scout Leader Specific Training replaced Cub Scout Leader Basic Training).
You can find the syllabus online ... most of them at least ...
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