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Re: [Scouter_T] Re: scoutmaster specific-OLS

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  • Connie Knie
    In our troop they break out into patrols at every meeting. So they just take the opportunity to discuss the campout at the meeting........... Doc Holladay
    Message 1 of 8 , Nov 24, 2006
      In our troop they break out into patrols at every meeting. So they just take the opportunity to discuss the campout at the meeting...........

      Doc Holladay <johnholladay@...> wrote: Don't your Scout patrols have a patrol meeting before campouts to get
      a menu and do planning?

      I for one can not believe the pre weekend patrol meeting is not in the

      John "Doc" Holladay
      Scoutmaster T1000
      One Grand Troop
      Plano, Tx

      --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Garry McLeary <gmcleary1@...> wrote:
      > I like to pre weekend patrol meeting idea a lot.
      > thank you
      > yis
      > Garry
      > Gerry Moon <gerrymoon32817@...> wrote:
      > One thing we do here is have a pre-course Patrol Meeting -
      > the registrants together about a week to 10 days prior. Here is
      > where we collect the money, form the patrols and review the class
      > objectives. This gives the patrols time to collaborate and decide on
      > their patrol assignments, pick their PL/APL, choose a menu, shop for
      > food, design and build a flag, etc. We camp over a weekend to
      > present the course. By doing the patrol meeting beforehand, Friday
      > night is getting set up, presenting a session or two, a cracker
      > barrel and lights out. We can jump in full steam come Saturday
      > morning and run until suppertime. After dinner is the campfire
      > session, then we finish up Sunday morning and are done by noon-ish.
      > Gerry Moon
      > Orlando, FL
      > --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com, Eugene Roberts
      > <eugenedroberts@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Garry,
      > >
      > > In the past several years we have revamped the way we run our
      > Outdoor Leader Skills (OLS) course to put an increased emphasis on
      > the patrol method. Our OLS is put on jointly with several districts
      > in our council with each district putting on its own Scoutmaster
      > Leader Specific Training (SMLST). So the participants do not come
      > in already set up patrols. We occasionally get participants who
      > have not attended the SMLST. We also have Venuring Advisors and
      > Varsity Coaches attend. There could be a whole different discussion
      > on presenting the patrol method in the SMLST, but I will talk about
      > OLS here.
      > >
      > > When they arrive at OLS, we put them in patrols. Each patrol is
      > assigned a staff member as "patrol leader". The staff member camps
      > with them and participates in all the activities with them,
      > providing both an example of how things should be done as well as a
      > readily available staff member the participants can direct their
      > questions to. The participants camp as patrols, cook as patrols,
      > make patrol flags, and have patrol yells. At the campfire, each
      > patrol puts on a skit or sings a song. This past time we had quick
      > patrol competitions as a part of most of the areas of instruction.
      > After each competition the winning patrol got a ribbon to put on
      > their patrol flag. We have found that the participants come away
      > with a good understanding of the patrol method in the outdoor
      > setting.
      > >
      > > Your other question dealt with getting participation from LDS
      > units. We found an important factor to getting LDS participation is
      > having the LDS church leadership understand the importance of Boy
      > Scout training in developing effective units. We have worked to
      > emphasize the benefits of training, paticularly to the Counselors to
      > the Stake and Ward leadership. We have also recruited LDS members
      > to serve on OLS staff. We were very fortunate to have a couple of
      > Scouters from our district attend an LDS conference at Philmont
      > Training Center last summer. I think they took "Scouting in the LDS
      > Church". They came back fired up to get participation up among the
      > LDS units. We even offered Varsity Coach Training at our last
      > leader specific training and we had six participants. The trainers
      > were all LDS Scouters who were experienced with the program and with
      > training.
      > >
      > > We have also made some adjustments to the OLS course schedule to
      > make it easier for them. We have run the past two OLS courses as
      > Friday / Saturday courses. We start at 2:00 PM on Friday and finish
      > by 8:00 PM on Saturday. This schedule has been well received. Both
      > participants and staff like being home on Sunday. Our council is
      > offering our next Wood Badge as a Thursday - Saturday course. Our
      > Wood Badge course have typically been run on the Friday - Sunday
      > schedule. We are watching to see how the different schedule works.
      > >
      > > Yours in Scouting,
      > > Eugene Roberts
      > > Greater Alabama Council
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message ----
      > > From: gmcleary1 <gmcleary1@>
      > > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:13:17 PM
      > >
      > >
      > > Howdy all, I am new to this group so this may be an old topic.
      > > Ever sence the current sylibus "smalt" came out seperating the
      > indoor
      > > and outdoor sessions we have tried to keep the idea of forming the
      > > participants into patrols at the indoor session just as we did
      > > with "BSALT" and "ALT". This has continued to be a challange when
      > > others decide we must let someone attend OLS without haveing
      > > completed the indoor session. I am somewhat at oods with the
      > current
      > > sylibus as it seems out of step with NYLT and Woodbadge, as it
      > > completly leaves out Patrol identity and team building, only the
      > buddy
      > > system is in play here. Sooooo, how do yall run your courses?
      > >
      > > One other qestion, we have had very little success in getting the
      > > L.D.S. units to attend training of any sort, we have continually
      > > offered to run the two Saturday course for them but have had
      > little
      > > interest. Is this just a local proplem in our council or do some
      > of
      > > you face the same challange?
      > > yours in Scouting
      > > Garry
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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