Re: Online Training / Pack Trainers
- Ida & Friends
You mentioned that your Pack Trainers _DELIVER_ NLE and PST. I
assume that this is with the blessing of your District Training
Team. In my world, the district provides a solid training team and
we hold those classroom-style courses thruout the year. As far as I
am aware, no unit in my District does their own training. I would
hope that, at a minimum, your Pack Trainers have atttended TDC.
National recommends it, too...
With leader training being a function of the district (it falls
under Program) I would hope that the District is actually managing
it and is aware of who's doing what.
According to what National says, the PT position has these
- new family orientation
- providing Fast Start
- conducting Unit Leadership Enhancements (these are in the Cub
Scout Leader Book)
- maintaing Pack training records
- _ENCOURAGING_ PACK LEADERS TO ATTEND... )NLE, PST, YPT, RT,
PowWow, BALOO, OLSWL and Wood Badge).
It doesn't mention that the PT is responsible for _DELIVERING_ BLT
or the Supplementals. However, in the next paragraph, it states "The
pack trainer conducts, or facilitates the training of leaders...".
That makes it kinda ambiguous, doesn't it? While I suppose it's open
to interpretation, I read it as saying that those tasks on the first
list are what's REQUIRED of the PT. If I were a District Training
Chair, I would want to know who is doing the training in my district
and be confident that they actually have the skills to deliver the
material _properly_ and _effectively_. There's more to it than
showing the powerpoints and playing the tape.
Here I go again, preaching to the choir....
--- In email@example.com, Ida Lively <Ilively@...> wrote:
> >I also am uncomfortable with trainers being members of the
> participant's unit. You have not mentioned what course material is
> used by the Pack Trainer (Fast Start, New Leader Essentials,
> Specific), however, I would really be surprised if at least some
> the material is not modified to fit the unit's operation. Exposure
> to leaders from other units, or even districts, is a plus, a
> from team training on a district or council basis.
> I wasn't a fan of this idea either, at first. But, being able to
> their specific unit has advantages in training, too. For example,
> trainers can say "when we do X and Y" we need tour permits. They
> generally also know their people and ther personal situations
> anyone outside of the unit(s) would.
> I know the risks of perpetuating the "the literature says this,
but we do this;"
> however, since I'm the guardian of the training material, I know
when I release
> the material to them when/where they're going to be training. I
> at any time -- and they are fully aware of this. (Yes, I have
> the Pack Trainers have told each other that I do audit. ;-) It
keeps all of us
> on our toes. But, I am learning that *I* don't need to be at every
> my district. *I* need a life outside of Scouting, too. One hour a
> mean that I get one hour of free time a week. ;-) )
> My Pack Trainers teach fast start, NLE and position specific.
> also teach YP (Hubby and one of the Owls from WB). [In our council
> trainer is 'certified' to teach YP. They have to be blessed by the
> for training (happens to be my district's DE).]
> My Pack Trainers *do* encourage their new leaders to go to a
> training to meet other leaders -- as I said, these trainers "get
it." But, when
> someone joins and there isn't a training scheduled for quite some
> training runs in October (council) and April (district)), rather
than make that
> person wait, or try to gather 4 others (my Council Training Chair
> minimum of 5 for a visit from our Council training team), the
> trains inhouse.
> Pete (a year! only 4 more to the next Jambo!) --
> I agree. WB is not an online training course.
> In my opinion, these are Non-Online Training Courses:
> OWL/WLOT (Outdoor Webelos Leader)
> BALOO (Basic Adult Leader Outdoor Orientation)
> SMS (Scoutmaster/Asst Scoutmaster Specific)
> IOLS (Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills)
> Cub College/University of Scouting
> Commissioner's College
> Chartered Organization Representative Training
> District/Council Committee Training
> Unit Commissioner Training
> Trainer Development Course
> Range Officer (Archery/BB Guns/Rifle)
> Wood Badge
> I'm sure there's others that I've taken that I wouldn't want to
> take online because there's so much more to be learned by
> doing things hands on. Of course, there's trainings I've attended
> that I *could* have learned more by a well-designed online course.
> I'm "iffy" about Safety Afloat and Safe Swim Defense online;
> I learned more online than I did by taking those courses as a part
> a Cub College. IF I ever knew when the courses were offered at
> our council camp, I'd have taken them there; but they're not real
> good about publishing those times -- much to my dismay.
> But, these have been my experience ... your mileage may vary.