Re: Transition Figures
- I'm going to post this to both lists, because I believe that it a valid
issue for both groups.
I feel that adult volunteers are about as alike and unlike as a box of
beach rocks or pebbles. This is one reason we have a Unit
Resource/Abilities Form in Scouting. Somehow I doubt that a person who
has worked most of his or her adult life as an over the road trucker, or
a high steel worker, would share many abilities and capabilities as one
who has worked as an elementary school teacher, but this doesn't mean
they can't be good leaders. I believe that the Cub Scout Program Helps
give the former a good foundation of minimal elements with which to
build the den program, especially when complimented by Roundtable
attendance, but for the latter it gives them a jumping off place, to
give them ideas that they can work on, to provide a program for their
den. The one uses it as a program the other as a foundation for what
will be used in the den.
I know that when my wife was a den leader and I a committee member of
our pack, we'd brainstorm ideas at home before the meetings, and come up
with a way to use a paper picnic plate, one of those huge southern pine
cones, and a pipe cleaner or two to make a turkey centerpiece for their
table. No part of this was in the program helps, as southern pitch
pines aren't universal, even within the US, but it was a project that
the boys could complete in one meeting, and have something to take home
and show his parents, which is one of the triumphs I think we owe the
Fred Goodwin, CMA wrote:
>>Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:08:58 -0500To reply, click on the address below.
>>From: Bob Geier <bobgeier@...>
>>Don makes one claim, though, that I will politely take issue with:
>>>The tools provided by the BSA give den leaders everything they
>>I couldn't disagree more as an educator and researcher. Curriculum
>>tools have only rarely been shown to be effective at helping a
>>little; and even when they are "successful" at helping a little, they
>>are a small effect compared to the 800-pound gorilla of
> As an educator, what do you think BSA can do to control the "variance"
> of adult volunteers?
> And secondly, if BSA *didn't* provide resources to den leaders, would
> those den leaders be better off?
> Fred Goodwin
> Keystone District Training Chairman
> Alamo Area Council
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