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  • tresroblesman
    Help! I have recently been given the responsibility for doing den chief training. I have never been a den leader. What are the main things a den leader expects
    Message 1 of 30 , Aug 4, 2005
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      Help! I have recently been given the responsibility for doing den chief
      training. I have never been a den leader.

      What are the main things a den leader expects a good den chief to do?

      tresroblesman
    • Sandra Martens
      relax- everything you need to know is in the syllabus. Besides, den leaders often expect the wrong things from a den chief. Read, and you shall know. Sandy
      Message 2 of 30 , Aug 5, 2005
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        relax- everything you need to know is in the syllabus. Besides, den leaders often expect the wrong things from a den chief. Read, and you shall know.

        Sandy OWL

        tresroblesman <tresroblesman@...> wrote:
        Help! I have recently been given the responsibility for doing den chief
        training. I have never been a den leader.

        What are the main things a den leader expects a good den chief to do?

        tresroblesman




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      • Chris
        ... chief ... do? ... First, take a deep breath, this is a fun training..... The very first thing you should do is get a copy of the Den Chief Handbook, a copy
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          <tresroblesman@y...> wrote:
          > Help! I have recently been given the responsibility for doing den
          chief
          > training. I have never been a den leader.
          >
          > What are the main things a den leader expects a good den chief to
          do?
          >
          > tresroblesman

          First, take a deep breath, this is a fun training.....

          The very first thing you should do is get a copy of the Den Chief
          Handbook, a copy of the syllabus for the training and a copy of the
          Cub Scout Leader Handbook. Read these through to get the flavor of
          the job. The last versions I read stressed that a Den Chief is a
          games and activity specialist. He is also an example to the Cubs of
          what a Boy Scout is. He is NOT a Den leader in a kid's body.

          Consider recruiting experienced Den Leaders to do portions of the
          training. Another somewhat radical thought is recruiting experienced
          older Scouts to do some of the training as well. They will have an
          easier time teaching from the youth perspective. This also allows you
          to show by example how a Den Chief interacts with his den.

          Keep it fun, keep it active and minimize "bottom time". Den Chiefs
          are still boys and boys don't do well sitting listening to lectures.

          Hope that helps...good Luck!!!

          Chris Finnegan
          Bucks County Council, PA
        • JNDunnMN@aol.com
          ... Actually, Den Chiefs are also girls! See the New Den Chief Handbook and the Venturing Leader Manual. Female Venturers may serve as Den Chiefs. YiS, Jamie
          Message 4 of 30 , Aug 5, 2005
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            >Keep it fun, keep it active and minimize "bottom time". Den Chiefs
            >are still boys and boys don't do well sitting listening to lectures.

            Actually, Den Chiefs are also girls! See the New Den Chief Handbook and the Venturing Leader Manual. Female Venturers may serve as Den Chiefs.

            YiS,
            Jamie Dunn
            Pack Trainer
            P. 512
            Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN
            Cub Scout Training Chair
            3 Rivers District




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          • Dave Loomis
            Help to facilitate the den leader s job, provide another set of eyes and hands at the den meeting, help keep the Cubs interested and less boisterous at the
            Message 5 of 30 , Aug 5, 2005
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              Help to facilitate the den leader's job, provide another set of
              eyes and hands at the den meeting, help keep the Cubs interested and
              less boisterous at the Pack meeting.

              But, why are you doing this training without the syllabus? BSA
              has a training guide for Den Chief Training, # 34450B - there may be a
              later version out by now, but this is what is in my 2004 Library of
              Literature.

              Dave


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            • JNDunnMN@aol.com
              ... l later version out by now, but this is what is in my 2004 Library of ... Actually, I think there is. I m pretty sure the copy I ve got came out early this
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                >BSA has a training guide for Den Chief Training, # 34450B - there may be a
                l>later version out by now, but this is what is in my 2004 Library of
                >Literature.

                Actually, I think there is. I'm pretty sure the copy I've got came out early this year. The course is now only four hours long.


                YiS,
                Jamie Dunn
                Pack Trainer
                P. 512
                Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN
                Cub Scout Training Chair
                3 Rivers District




                Dave


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              • Chad C. Cooper
                The one that I purchased this spring is #34450C. Since it is available via Supply Division, it falls into the category of not authorized for reproduction. -
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                  The one that I purchased this spring is #34450C. Since it is available
                  via Supply Division, it falls into the category of not authorized for
                  reproduction.

                  - Chad
                  Troop 293, Chief Black Dog, Northern Star Council
                  Apple Valley, MN

                  JNDunnMN@... wrote:

                  > >BSA has a training guide for Den Chief Training, # 34450B - there may
                  > be a
                  > l>later version out by now, but this is what is in my 2004 Library of
                  > >Literature.
                  >
                  > Actually, I think there is. I'm pretty sure the copy I've got came out
                  > early this year. The course is now only four hours long.
                  >
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                  > YiS,
                  > Jamie Dunn
                  > Pack Trainer
                  > P. 512
                  > Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN
                  > Cub Scout Training Chair
                  > 3 Rivers District
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                  > Dave
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                  > > Help! I have recently been given the responsibility for doing den chief
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                  > > What are the main things a den leader expects a good den chief to do?
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                • David J Brown
                  I have been ask to give Den Chief training. Is there power point availible.
                  Message 8 of 30 , Apr 23 6:11 PM
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                    I have been ask to give Den Chief training. Is there power point
                    availible.
                  • tomtribble
                    Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic form? Tom Tribble Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee
                    Message 9 of 30 , Aug 26, 2008
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                      Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic
                      form?

                      Tom Tribble
                      Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee
                    • Steven Powell
                      I sent him a digital copy of the most recent syllabus.got his Out of Office reply..he ll get it upon his return. Steve From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
                      Message 10 of 30 , Aug 26, 2008
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                        I sent him a digital copy of the most recent syllabus.got his "Out of
                        Office" reply..he'll get it upon his return.



                        Steve



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                        Of tomtribble
                        Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:48 PM
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                        Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic
                        form?

                        Tom Tribble
                        Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee



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                      • eagle9252
                        can you please send it to me thanx ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                        Message 11 of 30 , Aug 26, 2008
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                          can you please send it to me

                          thanx


                          On 8/26/08, Steven Powell <foxscouter@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > I sent him a digital copy of the most recent syllabus.got his "Out of
                          > Office" reply..he'll get it upon his return.
                          >
                          > Steve
                          >
                          > From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
                          > scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
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                          > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:48 PM
                          > To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
                          > Subject: [Scouter_T] Den Chief Training
                          >
                          > Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic
                          > form?
                          >
                          > Tom Tribble
                          > Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee
                          >
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                        • struax@tidalwave.net
                          Better yet can you post it to the files section Scott
                          Message 12 of 30 , Aug 27, 2008
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                            Better yet can you post it to the files section

                            Scott



                            > can you please send it to me
                            >
                            > thanx
                            >
                            >
                            > On 8/26/08, Steven Powell <foxscouter@...> wrote:
                            >>
                            >> I sent him a digital copy of the most recent syllabus.got his "Out of
                            >> Office" reply..he'll get it upon his return.
                            >>
                            >> Steve
                            >>
                            >> From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
                            >> scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
                            >> Of tomtribble
                            >> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:48 PM
                            >> To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
                            >> Subject: [Scouter_T] Den Chief Training
                            >>
                            >> Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic
                            >> form?
                            >>
                            >> Tom Tribble
                            >> Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee
                            >>
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                          • Bill LaChance
                            Could I get a copy also, Steve?   Bill LaChance, Cubmaser Pack #151 Goergetown, TX ... From: eagle9252 Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Den
                            Message 13 of 30 , Aug 27, 2008
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                              Could I get a copy also, Steve?
                               
                              Bill LaChance, Cubmaser
                              Pack #151
                              Goergetown, TX

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                              From: eagle9252 <eagle9252@...>
                              Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Den Chief Training
                              To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
                              Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 9:50 PM






                              can you please send it to me

                              thanx

                              On 8/26/08, Steven Powell <foxscouter@lpbroadb and.net> wrote:
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                              > I sent him a digital copy of the most recent syllabus.got his "Out of
                              > Office" reply..he'll get it upon his return.
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                              > Steve
                              >
                              > From: scouter_t@yahoogrou ps.com <scouter_t%40yahoog roups.com> [mailto:
                              > scouter_t@yahoogrou ps.com <scouter_t%40yahoog roups.com> ] On Behalf
                              > Of tomtribble
                              > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:48 PM
                              > To: scouter_t@yahoogrou ps.com <scouter_t%40yahoog roups.com>
                              > Subject: [Scouter_T] Den Chief Training
                              >
                              > Does anyone know if the Den Chief Training syllabus in in electronic
                              > form?
                              >
                              > Tom Tribble
                              > Chester County (PA) BSA Training Committee
                              >
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                            • corbms3
                              To qualify for the trained patch as a Den Cnief, and as part of the requirement for the Den Chief Service Award, can they do either the classroom Den Cief
                              Message 14 of 30 , Aug 3, 2009
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                                To qualify for the trained patch as a Den Cnief, and as part of the requirement for the Den Chief Service Award, can they do either the classroom Den Cief Training Conference or the on-line Den Chief Fast Start, or both?
                                The requirement current says complete Den Chief Training.
                                incidently, fyi, the training coes for these courses are:

                                Dem Chief Training: C31.
                                Den Chief Fast Start: DCF8.
                                Den Chief Service Award: 610.

                                The Den Chief fast start is accessed on line through scouting.org, through youth, through boy scout, through trainng.

                                The DCFS mirrows the DC Trng Conference, but the DCTC includes practical work, exercises, and hands-on activities.

                                i experimented with one course by having one schou go on line (using a laptop and projector) and doing course in segments, with the TCTC activties, etc., following the on-line segment pertaining to it. Afterwards, we had each Scout, who wanted to stay and do it, go online and do the fast start and print out his certificate.\

                                The boys enjoyed it. It is a great on-on-line course. I commend it to you.

                                Hopefully, BSA will product a DVC version of the classroom course, picking up on the same material in the fast start course.

                                Corb Sarchet
                              • Jamie Niss Dunn
                                Since the requirement predates the online Fast Start, I m pretty sure its the classroom course which is required for the award. Jamie Niss Dunn Pack Trainer,
                                Message 15 of 30 , Aug 3, 2009
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                                  Since the requirement predates the online Fast Start, I'm pretty sure
                                  its the classroom course which is required for the award.


                                  Jamie Niss Dunn
                                  Pack Trainer, Pack 512
                                  Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN
                                  Troop Committee, Troop 509
                                  Ham Lake, MN
                                  Cub Scout Training Coordinator
                                  Cub Scout Roundtable Commissioner
                                  Three Rivers District
                                • Ben Ward
                                  No the fast start is just that a fast start to the postion like us adult leaders we also have fast start to get us started however we still have to take the
                                  Message 16 of 30 , Aug 3, 2009
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                                    No the fast start is just that a fast start to the postion like us adult leaders we also have fast start to get us started however we still have to take the classroom portion of the training. The Den Chiefs will need to take the classroom portation also.

                                    Yours in Scouting,


                                    Ben Ward



                                    Eagle Scout Class 1999
                                    Heart of Virginia Council # 602

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                                    From: corbms3 <corbms3@...>
                                    Subject: [Scouter_T] Den Chief Training
                                    To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
                                    Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 3:10 PM


                                     



                                    To qualify for the trained patch as a Den Cnief, and as part of the requirement for the Den Chief Service Award, can they do either the classroom Den Cief Training Conference or the on-line Den Chief Fast Start, or both?
                                    The requirement current says complete Den Chief Training.
                                    incidently, fyi, the training coes for these courses are:

                                    Dem Chief Training: C31.
                                    Den Chief Fast Start: DCF8.
                                    Den Chief Service Award: 610.

                                    The Den Chief fast start is accessed on line through scouting.org, through youth, through boy scout, through trainng.

                                    The DCFS mirrows the DC Trng Conference, but the DCTC includes practical work, exercises, and hands-on activities.

                                    i experimented with one course by having one schou go on line (using a laptop and projector) and doing course in segments, with the TCTC activties, etc., following the on-line segment pertaining to it. Afterwards, we had each Scout, who wanted to stay and do it, go online and do the fast start and print out his certificate. \

                                    The boys enjoyed it. It is a great on-on-line course. I commend it to you.

                                    Hopefully, BSA will product a DVC version of the classroom course, picking up on the same material in the fast start course.

                                    Corb Sarchet



















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                                  • bsa.scoutleader
                                    Is the 2004 printing still the current syllabus for Den Chief Training? Is this a Boy Scout training course or a Cub Scout training course? Can a unit put it
                                    Message 17 of 30 , Oct 14, 2009
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                                      Is the 2004 printing still the current syllabus for Den Chief Training?

                                      Is this a Boy Scout training course or a Cub Scout training course? Can a unit put it on, or does the District/Council have to do it?

                                      Yours In Scouting,
                                      Steve McDanal
                                      Cub Scout Training Chair
                                      Western Shore District, BSA

                                      I used to be an Eagle and a Good Ol Staffer Too...

                                      Once an Eagle, Always an Eagle
                                    • Corbin Sarchet
                                      There are two courses. A new Den Chief fast start, which is accessed through scouting.org, e-center training, and toward the bottom. It is a mirror image of
                                      Message 18 of 30 , Oct 14, 2009
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                                        There are two courses.

                                        A new Den Chief fast start, which is accessed through scouting.org, e-center
                                        training, and toward the bottom. It is a mirror image of the classroom
                                        course, the Den Chief Training Conference, which adds in practical work and
                                        hands on work.

                                        In our Council, it is conducted by the District Boy Scout training
                                        committee. It is not a course for Cub Scouts or Cub Leaders, although we
                                        encourage Cub Leaders to help instruct or to mentor the course to see what
                                        it is that Den Chiefs do. We do it in our district twice a year, but since
                                        we are part of the Orlando metro area, nearby districts offerings make it
                                        available in the Orlando area about eight times a year.

                                        Note: the classroom version is required for the den chief service award and
                                        for the Den Chief to wear the "trained" strip. To be considered ":trained,"
                                        the Den Chief has to had taken part in his Troop's Troop Leader Training and
                                        the Den Chief Training Conference.



                                        Corb Sarchet

                                        CFC



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                                      • Jamie Niss Dunn
                                        I have a 2008 printing. There are some updates (minor). Den Chief Training is a meeting of den chief and prospective den chiefs on a council, district or
                                        Message 19 of 30 , Oct 14, 2009
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                                          I have a 2008 printing. There are some updates (minor).



                                          "Den Chief Training is a meeting of den chief and prospective den chiefs on a council, district or single-pack basis. It is planned and operated by council or distric trainers or adult leaders who are familiar with Cub Scouting."

                                          P. 2 of the syllabus.



                                          Same page refers to the Cubmaster conducting the training.



                                          Also "The training is designed for den chiefs. However, all adult leaders who recuit or work with den chiefs are encouraged to attend with them."



                                          Jamie Niss Dunn

                                          Pack Trainer, Pack 512

                                          Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN

                                          Troop Committee, Troop 509 Ham Lake, MN

                                          Cub Scout Training Coordinator

                                          Cub Scout Roundtable Commissioner

                                          Three Rivers District


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                                          From: Corbin Sarchet <corbms3@...>
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                                          There are two courses.

                                          A new Den Chief fast start, which is accessed through scouting.org, e-center
                                          training, and toward the bottom. It is a mirror image of the classroom
                                          course, the Den Chief Training Conference, which adds in practical work and
                                          hands on work.

                                          In our Council, it is conducted by the District Boy Scout training
                                          committee. It is not a course for Cub Scouts or Cub Leaders, although we
                                          encourage Cub Leaders to help instruct or to mentor the course to see what
                                          it is that Den Chiefs do. We do it in our district twice a year, but since
                                          we are part of the Orlando metro area, nearby districts offerings make it
                                          available in the Orlando area about eight times a year.

                                          Note: the classroom version is required for the den chief service award and
                                          for the Den Chief to wear the "trained" strip. To be considered ":trained,"
                                          the Den Chief has to had taken part in his Troop's Troop Leader Training and
                                          the Den Chief Training Conference.

                                          Corb Sarchet

                                          CFC

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                                        • Staci Kilpatrick
                                          I am training Den Chief training at a campout this next week.  Does anyone here have a good presentation for this?  I will have my laptop and would LOVE to
                                          Message 20 of 30 , Dec 26, 2009
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                                            I am training Den Chief training at a campout this next week.  Does anyone here have a good presentation for this?  I will have my laptop and would LOVE to have something other than the book to show them.  THANKS SO MUCH

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                                          • Trisha E Munsch
                                            There s a whole syllabus for this training. The buttonholer idea is a great gathering time game for them, then they get to have something to take with them to
                                            Message 21 of 30 , Dec 26, 2009
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                                              There's a whole syllabus for this training. The buttonholer idea is a great gathering time game for them, then they get to have something to take with them to play with their cubbies too! Also if there's some type of activity that calls for the boys to give about 6 -8 answers, it's kinda fun to have those answers on a piece of paper inside a balloon, then they have to pop the balloon to read the answer. It'sbeen a long time since I've done this training, but if you have access to any boy scouts that have already been thru it, that is the ideal session - to have it led by boys.

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                                              I am training Den Chief training at a campout this next week.  Does anyone here have a good presentation for this?  I will have my laptop and would LOVE to have something other than the book to show them.  THANKS SO MUCH

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                                            • Jon Baake
                                              Try this link to Den Chief Training links at usscouts.org.
                                              Message 22 of 30 , Dec 27, 2009
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                                                Try this link to Den Chief Training links at usscouts.org. http://usscouts.org/googlesearch.asp?cx=000788815416682882412%3A07ksjxxkzyy&cof=FORID%3A11&q=den+chief+training&sa=Search#1054

                                                Jon Baake
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                                                I am training Den Chief training at a campout this next week. Does anyone here have a good presentation for this? I will have my laptop and would LOVE to have something other than the book to show them. THANKS SO MUCH

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                                              • Judy Yeager
                                                Can anyone tell me how long the Den Chief Conference runs according to the schedule in the syllabus? Does anyone know where one could find a copy of the
                                                Message 23 of 30 , Oct 22, 2010
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                                                  Can anyone tell me how long the Den Chief Conference runs according to
                                                  the schedule in the syllabus?

                                                  Does anyone know where one could find a copy of the syllabus on the web?

                                                  Thanks in advance.

                                                  Judy Yeager
                                                • Harrison
                                                  I have posted a Den Chief Training Folder with the syllabus in it as well as Word Documents that can be used as resources or handouts put together per the
                                                  Message 24 of 30 , Oct 23, 2010
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                                                    I have posted a Den Chief Training Folder with the syllabus in it as well as
                                                    Word Documents that can be used as resources or handouts put together per
                                                    the syllabus from the Den Chief Handbook and other resources. The handouts
                                                    can be printed, including a cover, and put together back to back in an order
                                                    that might be helpful as a packet for Den Chief participants. Hope this is
                                                    helpful.



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                                                  • Judy Yeager
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                                                    Message 25 of 30 , Oct 23, 2010
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                                                      Thanks!

                                                      On 10/23/2010 7:08 AM, Harrison wrote:
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                                                      > I have posted a Den Chief Training Folder with the syllabus in it as
                                                      > well as
                                                      > Word Documents that can be used as resources or handouts put together per
                                                      > the syllabus from the Den Chief Handbook and other resources. The handouts
                                                      > can be printed, including a cover, and put together back to back in an
                                                      > order
                                                      > that might be helpful as a packet for Den Chief participants. Hope this is
                                                      > helpful.
                                                      >
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