Re: [Scouter_T] Digest Number 713
- <<<<<< I was not aware of this exception. Does this exception apply
generally? I mean, can a Scouter take Woodbadge or a Philmont course by self-study
(as a last resort, of course)?And since this document controls over individual
course syllabi, why isn't this exception more generally known? I mean, how
many of your average Scouters (i.e., those who aren't also trainers) even know of
the existence of this exception? Whereas most of your average Scouters *are*
aware of the national website, one would think such an important piece of
info would be more widely publicized.
Finally, since most self-paced courses involve a self-assessment (e.g., the
online YPT), what does #34169E suggest a Scouter use as a self-assessment tool
who decides to take NLE by himself?>>>
The information that some training MAY (not has to be) accomplished by
self-study and individual coaching does NOT mean that the learner has total control
over self-certifying <G>. The next sentence in the book states clearly that
this is under the control of the training committee head (not the district
commissioner who wants to boost his QU numbers, the SM, or anyone else), who has
the responsibility of approving this course of action. I chuckled at your idea
of self-study for PTC or WB. Ummm, you were kidding, right?
IMHO, the circumstances for allowing self-study, and even personal coaching,
are vanishingly rare and should be limited to extreme distances (like in
remote areas where travel to far-distant training opportunities are the only
option) or other exceptional circumstances. There is not, and should not be, a
blanket loophole for any leader to declare himself a self-study and all trained
just because he thinks it's a nicer idea than actually participating with his
peers in a course. Just as "he who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer,"
so (often) does "he who trains himself."
I could tell you stories of people who have gone to extreme lengths to avoid
training (one notorious in council even told me, "I have Guard duty that weeken
d," for two years, repeating it the last time when I hadn't even told him the
date yet <sigh>), and then heard of this loophole and got someone else to
declare them trained...without knowing that that someone didn'thave the right to
do so.... Of course going to training doesn't automatically equate with being
competent, but it's harder to BS your way thru something when you're in a
class full of peers, especially if you know those peers are gonna be camping next
to you at the next district event, and you know that they know what you heard.
This particular guy was recruited to "teach"
BTW, the YP online has a testing section that is not self-graded, so although
it's individual instruction, it's not independent.
Look, one of the big benefits of NLE is that you are in a room with other new
leaders. it's designed to teach the integration of the three age-appropriate
program levels, and get them all to work together. Why would you want to
encourage circumventing this explicit goal?