>For those of you who feel that the proper way to handle advancement from
>Life to Eagle is just to hand over that blank packet, you may want to enroll
>in a class called from Life to Eagle at your local scouting university.
>may learn a thing or two.
<sigh> The original poster made reference to an adult-led process that would
shepherd a Life Scout thru everything re an Eagle project, and it should be
the other way around. There is nothing wrong with checking in with the Scout
to say, "How's it all going?" from time to time, and making yourself
available to answer his questions, but I have a real problem with an adult
structure that gives a timeline for everything, makes assignments for portion
completion, and generally prompts the youth when and how to do everything (as
opposed to checking his work in the format given).
The structure as given in the L-t-E packet gives the appropriate structure
for writing up a proposal and getting it vetted and approved by the adults
who should do this-- the TCC, the SM, the beneficiary organisation, and the
rep of the district or council Eagle Board. This is far different from
saying, "OK, it's January 15 and you have to have your first paragraph in by
january 21st; the schedule calls for your materials list to be due in to us
by Feb 1st...." I have seen efforts like this and they're painful to watch,
as the initiative and planning is removed from the Scout and defaults to the
adult. This is not guidance, it's control.
A Scout old enough and mature enough to be seeking Eagle should be able to
recognize when he needs a question answered and when he needs more
information, and shoud be able to ask for help writing a proposal if he needs
help. What I object to is the imposition of a structure above and beyond the
actual L-t-E packet requirements by well-meaning adults who feel that if they
don't do this the Scout will be incapable of completing his Eagle.
I am here to tell ya that there are plenty of Eagles who do it just fine
without this sort of pushing and micromanaging (which is not support, no
matter how well-meant).
Sure the Eagle board loves to see grammar and spelling, and all that.
However, I can assure you that this is not a prime concern. What they really
want to see is evidence that the Scout is showing and using leadership and
Hope this clarifies things. "Never do someting for a boy that he can do for
himself" doesn't mean it has to be done to your adult standards. It means he
does it. Trust the youth to do it... and get out of the way.
Cape Cod & Islands Council, MA
Training Committee Chair
NSJ 1997, 2001 Nat'l Health & Safety
Abake Mi-Sa-Na-Ki Lodge #393
I useta be an Eagle....NEI-188
and now I'm a staffer! NE-I-209