- In our council we've instituted a "Training Totem". Every Trainer on our
team receives a totem and appropriate bead at the completion of their first
training. (The cost of the totems and beads must be included in your
In addition, we present every trainer with a BSA training card appropriately
marked STAFF during the awards ceremony at the completion of training. Some
Course Directors add a certificate to this recognition.
We recognize any 'NEW' trainers at the next Roundtable by having them stand
As for recruiting: We announce (at least a couple of times a year) at
Roundtable that we are taking requests for trainers. Anyone who wishes to be
a trainer, can speak to anyone else on the training staff who then directs
them to the appropriate Commissioner.
Additionally, all Pack Trainers who have completed TDC are 'automatically'
added to the training team (with notice). They can help with training such
as BALOO, Cub College, and NLE/CSLBT.
Remember, training is not necessarily standing in front of the group and
speaking. It also includes set-up, registration and displays. These are
great ways to ease the new trainers into the program. You can even have a
new trainer assist an experienced trainer in giving the presentations. Just
a couple minutes at a time is much easier than having to speak for half an
hour or more!
Yours in Scouting,
P.S. When we started the totem in the spring, our Council Training Chairman,
went back through the records for the previous 3 years and awarded beads for
all training the trainers had attended ... as either a participant or a
trainer. [If you're interested in receiving a breakdown of our beads,
e-mail me and I'll reply off the list.]
- I am attempting to organize the training materials I have from the District.
Currently, I am trying to figure out the amount of time the actual training
takes for the Cub Scout Leader Specifics and the Baloo Training.
We are attempting to get the training back on track. The emphasis seems to
be that the Districts have the direct training responsibility. I have the
help of some terrific, knowledgeable people, but the lady who preceded me
(she was wonderful!) moved into a much needed role of OA Chapter Advisor
before she could get the committee organized. We've been operating between
reacting and being proactive.
I am attempting to schedule the bare minimum for next year (the proactive
effort) and then conduct training that pops up as needed in various ways.
I guess this e-mail is in two parts, First what are the time lengths for Cub
Leader Specifics and Baloo training, and what are some suggestions for
getting District training back on track?
Santa Fe Trail District Training Chairman
Quivira Council, KS
Who isn't anything with WoodBadge until the end of March :)
- Hi Laura! Congrats on your new mission, having realistic goals is so smart.
In my (fairly limited) experience BSA training materials are very good about
telling you exactly how long they think a training should last, and they put
it at the very front, on the schedule for the training event.
With the Leader Specific training, each one is a little bit different. The
page numbers are from the version I believe to be the latest - 34875, 2001.
Tiger Cub Den Leader Training: 2 hrs, 35 minutes (p.11)
Cub Scout Den Leader Training: 2 hrs, 40 min (p. 47)
Webelos Den Leader Training: 2 hrs, 55 min (p. 83)
Cubmaster Training: 2 hrs, 40 min (p. 129)
Committee Mbr Training: 2 hrs, 40 min (p. 165)
BALOO takes all day. The sample schedule starts at the training itself at
9am and ends at 5pm.
How to rejuvenate training? Hold some training sessions! Say you are going
to have them, advertise them, and HAVE THEM even if the preregistrations (or
lack of) have you quaking in your boots.
Advertise! Talk at Roundtable about what you are doing, ask them what their
packs need the most and when. If your district has a good email
communications list, use it and make those folks your bestest friends. If
your district doesn't have one, be sure you ask for email addresses on every
training registration form and build your own Cub Scouter database. These
people, once you have provided them with quality training, should always
know when your next session is. They are your marketers. You gave them value
and they know the rest of their pack leaders need it.
Recruit the best. Find the people who are full of good ideas, who love Cub
Scouting, who READ THE MATERIALS NATIONAL PROVIDES, who at least try to play
by the rules, and who know the position you want them to teach. Those people
are too busy to help you -- each and every one. I promise. Get them to help
you anyway. Provide them all the support you can - have their handouts ready
for them, get them their materials well in advance, get them a second
trainer (and let the lead trainer have veto authority) to carry the load.
Repeat every compliment about them that comes your way. If you chose well,
you will have lots to repeat.
Be sure to give evaluation forms at each session. Be sure to compile the
results (good and less good) and share them with each trainer. Share the
summaries and the best of the comments with your training chair, with the
district chair, with anyone who will listen.
Listen carefully. People will tell you what they need. In our district, our
training was rejuvenated by WOLS. It had been offered several times and
cancelled each time. I could not find ANYone who had ever seen the training
done. It had become the touchpoint of frustration and disillusionment in our
District. I took a deep breath and promised to make it happen, as my second
training event. I promised to train 2 people if that's all showed up. ACK!
I'm a committee chair! I don't DO outdoors! I was in waaay over my head, but
piggybacked on OLS, shared some Boy Scout trainers, begged a couple more,
made rash promises, made phone calls, prayed (lots of that), held my nose
and jumped in. Was it perfect? Nope, it wasn't -- but it was good, and it
proved to the 25 attendees that I would make training happen for them and
meet their pack needs. From that group of trainees (some who had just come
out of curiosity and weren't even Webelos leaders) I moved from "Teresa does
training" to a fully staffed training committee with some very dedicated and
enthusiastic trainers. Not that I didn't have some already -- and the best
is very very very good -- but now WE have SEVERAL.
I've rambled enough - but I just took this job a year ago and it's been a
roller-coaster. Easily the most fun and one of the most rewarding volunteer
jobs I've ever done. I can't wait to read the suggestions from everyone else
-- this list is great for inspiration. And I can't wait to hear what you
decide to do! Be sure to share your successes with us!
Pack 321 CC, Bluff Park UMC
Vulcan District Cub Training Coord
Greater AL Council
- When I have done training these are the times for the courses that I taught.
Youth protection and fast start - one hour
NLE - 2 hours
Specific - 4 hours
Baloo - One eight hour day
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Kilby" <kilbyl@...>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Scouter_T] Recognizing Trainers
> I am attempting to organize the training materials I have from the
> Currently, I am trying to figure out the amount of time the actual
> takes for the Cub Scout Leader Specifics and the Baloo Training.
> We are attempting to get the training back on track. The emphasis seems to
> be that the Districts have the direct training responsibility. I have the
> help of some terrific, knowledgeable people, but the lady who preceded me
> (she was wonderful!) moved into a much needed role of OA Chapter Advisor
> before she could get the committee organized. We've been operating between
> reacting and being proactive.
> I am attempting to schedule the bare minimum for next year (the proactive
> effort) and then conduct training that pops up as needed in various ways.
> I guess this e-mail is in two parts, First what are the time lengths for
> Leader Specifics and Baloo training, and what are some suggestions for
> getting District training back on track?
> Laura Kilby
> Santa Fe Trail District Training Chairman
> Quivira Council, KS
> Who isn't anything with WoodBadge until the end of March :)
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- Recognition of accomplishment is what we do in Scouting. We teach our
youth to respond to it and it's the ONLY reason that adults do anything
in Scouting... So, if you keep that in mind, it makes it really easy to
get youth and adults to do a zillion outstanding projects and events...
if only for a small set of beads.
There's only one thing I would add to the comments made: Send postcards
to thank your training staff and attendees!
Think of this... a postcard is only 23cents to mail, plus 25 cents on
average to buy... and...here's the bonus:
it's READ by everyone that handles it!
Use of postcards is an exceptional way to make sure that people know YOU
appreciate them and acknowledge THEIR contributions to the efforts of
Scouting. Thanking people for making the investment of their time to
learn their role is key to supplemental training attendance and their
commitment to making their effort pay the dividends we really want:
investment of time and quality program for the youth. Recognizing
mentors for their involvement.
Some amazing people have come forward and done some amazing things just
because of that simple thank you that went out to them. Their families
saw how important their time and energy was to do it. Yes, the
investment of that 48 cents has made ALL the difference in our training
Recognizing people publicly at Roundtable or District dinners, or other
situations is key to success, but it's soooooo much more valuable if you
tell their family! Long term investment in training is what makes or
breaks a successful training team. Getting long term commitment is
easy, if you make a small investment.
Yours in Scouting,
Cascade Pacific Council
- We recently concluded our Webelos Outdoor Training with a word to the
participants to please go home and thank their families for filling in the
gaps on the home front while they were away at training, for without the
support of our families, we couldn't do what we do in Scouting.
During the week that followed, I sent an email to all my trainers asking for
some personal information, including names of spouse or significant other
and children. I then sent a personal note to each of the spouses and
children of the trainers thanking them for "loaning" their family member to
us for Scout training and thanking them for being the most important part of
our team, because without their support, their family member couldn't be a
part of that team. My trainers were all surprised when the notes arrived at
their homes and appreciated that gesture more than being recognized publicly
for their contributions to training.
From time to time we have found it necessary to schedule an outdoor training
on Mother's Day weekend. At closing ceremony, we present each lady with a
silk rose for spending "their weekend" at a Scouting activity and make the
same roses available to the gentlemen to take home to their spouse. This
gesture has also been very well received. Most of the gentlemen on the
training team also take roses home.
NT District Training Chair, HOAC
- Laura asked: ... Currently, I am trying to figure out the amount of time the
actual training takes for the Cub Scout Leader Specifics and the Baloo
BALOO will take eight hours for the "classroom" component. Depending on the
amount of material you bring and the extent of your displays, plan on an
additional 2-4 hours total for set-up and tear down for your trainers.