RE: [Scouter_T] Another BALOO question
- Thank you, Richard.
I agree that axes and saws have no business in Cub Scouts hands, that was
never the intent. However, the BALOO is directed towards adults with few
outdoors skills how to conduct a pack campout with boys AND FAMILY MEMBERS.
The boys are a snap. Take them out and they are happy. Provide a program?
They'll participate. Leave them without a program? They'll collect bugs and
have leaf boat races and run for hours. In my experience, the problems in
pack campouts come from the parents. And not necessarily in any malicious or
ill-meant way, just parents who haven't pored through G2SS and don't even
consider why you don't do certain things with Scouts. Educate, educate,
educate, educate. I'll bet I can find an extra few minutes to tuck some axe
safety in BALOO next time -- and I'll guarantee we'll have an adult-only
axeyard pack campout, or a "split it before you come" rule.
Pack 321 CC, Bluff Park UMC
Vulcan District Cub Training Chair
Greater AL Council
From: Richard Damon
Sent: 11/11/02 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Scouter_T] Another BALOO question
I think the issue is rules for the adults using axes and saws to
the children. I could see a desire to teach some of the basic of axe
to the adults. It also serves to remind them that the cubs don't use
Pack Trainer, Pack 306
Member of Committee, Troup 302
Boston Minuteman Council
From: Chris Jacobi [mailto:jacobi@...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Another BALOO question
>The biggest lack in BALOO, as I see it tonight, is information onThese are not part of BALOO training because these are not age
>appropriate safety guidelines for uses of axes and saws -- ie, woodyard
appropriate activities for cub scouts. (Personally I even get scarred
sometimes when BOY scouts use axes)
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- --- Teresa Hall <tphall@...> wrote:
> ... I can find an extra few minutes to tuck someIf you opt for the latter, you need only add about 15
> axe safety in BALOO next time -- and I'll guarantee
> we'll have an adult-only axeyard pack campout, or
> a "split it before you come" rule.
seconds to the BALOO syllabus.
For campfire wood, you either use dead wood that
you find on the ground (if permissible at your
site location) or you bring in your own wood.
In either instance, the safe use of axes should be
saved for Boy Scout events.
For the protection of all your Scouts and their
siblings, split your wood at home. Axes should not
be brought to your pack overnighter and a pack
overnighter is not the proper environment to wow
your pack families with a Paul Bunyon routine.
Our next topic is ....
Kevin from Norman, America
who can't think of one good reason for an
axe to be a special guest at a pack overnighter.
But then, I've yet to fathom why Cub/Webelos
resident camps will sell a hot spark to any
Cub/Webelos Scout who wanders into the trading
post with a few quarters in his pocket.
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