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Re: [Scouter_T] Leader Training for Webelos Overnighting with a Troop

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  • E Hebenthal
    I d love to know more about how you do this. I wouldn t mind combining the courses if the Webelos leaders received Webelos information not just Boy Scout
    Message 1 of 8 , Feb 15, 2012
      I'd love to know more about how you do this. I wouldn't mind combining the courses if the Webelos leaders received Webelos information not just Boy Scout information only.

      Thanks,
      Elaine H.


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jon Studer <studer_je@...>
      To: scouter t <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:23:15 -0500 (EST)
      Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Leader Training for Webelos Overnighting with a Troop

      In our district we offer a combined IOLS and OWLS course.
      We cover the separate topics for each with everyone. Then, once the leader has completed the weekend training, they walk away with a training card for both courses.
      This works really well and preps leaders who will move to Boy Scouts once done with Webelos.
      Everyone loves it.

      On Feb 14, 2012, at 2:41 PM, "E Hebenthal" <ehebenthal@...> wrote:

      After instituting OWLS in our council this past year, those who took it thought it was very beneficial and we have leaders looking forward to it being offered again this spring. It is so very specific to Webelos. Before we offered it, I had leaders asking for a course to teach them about taking their Webelos dens camping thinking it would be covered more in position specific training.

      When our council didn't offer this course, I was strongly advised by online Scouters (I believe from Cub Scout Talk) that it was a disservice to Webelos Leaders to take the Boy Scout IOLS course instead of OWLS. For example, in our council, when Webelos Leaders took the IOLS course with Boy Scout leaders, they talked about things like how to winnow a backpack down to a very low weight, but didn't mention you wouldn't want to take Webelos on a three day backpacking trip far from civilization.

      So what I'm saying in a roundabout way is that although it is suggested, it is very useful to Webelos Leaders.

      YIS,
      Elaine H.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jamie Niss Dunn <JNDunnMN@...>
      To: scouter t <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:48:32 -0500 (EST)
      Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Leader Training for Webelos Overnighting with a Troop

      <<There seems to be some
      confusion as to whether they need a leader with OLSW to address the
      restrictions the Webelos may face on a Troop outing (cold weather,
      backpacking, etc.). Is it sufficient to have a fully trained Boy Scout
      leader for these Webelos?>>

      The Webelos Leader outdoor training is *not* required by the National Council to take Webelos Scouts camping. It is suggested. Some councils have other requirements for Webelos camping. This is a question best answered by your council training advisor, or council training chair.

      Jamie Niss Dunn
      Pack Trainer, Pack 512
      Blaine/Coon Rapids, MN
      Troop Committee, Troop 509
      Ham Lake, MN
      Cub Scout Roundtable Commissioner
      Three Rivers District

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