Re: [Scouter_T] Re: A Message from the Volunteer Development (Training) Team Leader, Mark Griffin:
- The JTE FAQ is correct. IOLS is not part of Scoutmaster Specific, it is a separate course. JTE must not be looking at the troop leader being basic trained at that point, just taking the Specific course.
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:48 AM
Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: A Message from the Volunteer Development (Training) Team Leader, Mark Griffin:
--- In mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com, Lisa Titus <bearmitzvah@...> wrote:
> Just saw this posted on BSA Volunteer Training Team's Facebook page:
> A Message from the Volunteer Development (Training) Team Leader, Mark Griffin:
> A Scouter is considered trained for his or her Scouting position and eligible to wear the "Trained" emblem when they have completed the currently prescribed courses for that position. At this time this
includes Youth Protection Training, This is Scouting, and the Specifics training for their role. For Scoutmasters, Coaches, and Advisors of outdoor program crews, Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills is also necessary. These courses are also included in the unit Journey to Excellence.
Is this a case of the left hand and the right hand? I've been working with one of my troops trying to figure this out. We found question #41 in the Scouting Journey to Excellence FAQ's (http://www.scouting.org/filestore/mission/JTE_FAQs-Unit.pdf) addressed IOLS:
FAQs for JOURNEY TO EXCELLENCE
PERFORMANCE RECOGNITION PROGRAM
41. Is the troop level training program, Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills required for requirement #4 on the troop scorecard? In some councils, this is considered part of Leader Specific Training.
Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills is not part of Leader Specific training. It is a separate training course. The troop Journey to Excellence scorecard lists Leader Specific Training in requirement #4 at the Silver level. This is the classroom training course and does not include Introduction to Outdoor Leader Skills. OLS is not mentioned on the Journey to Excellence scorecard and is not intended to be part of the requirement. The intent is to have all leaders take the basic classroom and on-line training.
My understanding of "Trained" agrees with Mark's, but is contradicted by the reply above.
On another note JTE requires BSA Fast Start, but I understand (and is noted in Mark's note above) it is no longer required training if the leader completes Specifics.
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