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RE: [Scouter_T] Re: CS Training Requirements Question

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  • Doug Acker
    WE know there are problems and National is trying to fix it. Right now, it is a pain. However, this is about the boys (and girls)--no matter what the effort
    Message 1 of 12 , Oct 4, 2009
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      WE know there are problems and National is trying to fix it. Right now,
      it is a pain.



      However, this is about the boys (and girls)--no matter what the effort is,
      if it helps them, its worth it.



      From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scouter_t@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
      Of Mark Ellis
      Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 6:48 PM
      To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [Scouter_T] Re: CS Training Requirements Question





      So, let's see. BSA has approximately 1.1 million (yes, million) adult
      leaders. So, say we only ask 10% of them (let that represent the number of
      new leaders each year) to hit the myscouting.org site and do their initial
      leader training (Fast Start for their position, This is Scouting, and Youth
      Protection). If their BSA ID number is there, everything works fine and
      ScoutNet is automatically updated.

      But what that means is even if the leader gets a BSA ID number and enters it
      on myscouting.org, any of the training accomplished prior to the BSA ID
      number being doesn't go anywhere. And most new leaders don't get a BSA ID
      number for several months (if the process is working fine).

      Does the National Office realize how much work it takes by humans (the
      leader, unit leaders, district training staff, and council staff) to correct
      this simple "programming" issue so we know who is trained and who isn't?
      It's hundreds of thousands of records, folks! That's hours and hours of
      work. And they have the audacity to say training is important. I believe
      training is, but this is simple programming, folks. This ain't rocket
      science.

      Get to it, please. You're wasting our time, and more importantly, you're
      losing our trust.

      Mark Ellis

      Training Chair

      From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      [mailto:scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
      Behalf
      Of spatula751
      Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 7:22 PM
      To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: CS Training Requirements Question

      Bill,

      Yes, I did. Response, and I quote: "It is a known issue."

      This is one of two responses I get when I report something. The other is
      "your incident number is xxxxx. Check the flash page for updates."

      Unlike most, I do report it because you never know if it has been reported
      before. I may work for the BSA, but my degree is in Management Computer
      Systems. I work PC Help Desks before and know how frustrating it is on both
      ends.

      Hopefully it will be resolved soon. But I reported another error 4 months
      ago that still hasn't been fixed with a MyBSA gadget that was working 5
      months ago.

      So I just sit, wait, and tell people how to solve the real issue, until the
      problem is fixed. (In this case below the real issue is getting the training
      recorded. Because after all it is more important that 1. They are actually
      trained (a whole other topic) and 2. That it is recorded in the system. Not
      how it is recored.)

      Yours in Scouting,
      Brian Sutilla

      --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      "bnelson45" <bnelson45@...> wrote:
      >
      > I go back to an earlier posting..... Did you report this to National?
      >
      > Bill
      >
      > --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      "spatula751" <spatula@> wrote:
      > >
      > > I go back to an earlier posting.....
      > >
      > > If your Person ID/Member ID/Number is entered into myScouting, PRIOR to
      you taking online courses ... it records in ScoutNET fine.
      > >
      > > If it is NOT in PRIOR to taking a course...it DOES NOT record into
      ScoutNET.
      > >
      > > Any courses taken AFTER it is entered WILL record to ScoutNET just fine.
      > >
      > > To get the courses taken before entry into ScoutNET:
      > > 1. Print certificate and send it to the Council Registrar for manual
      entry.
      > > 2. Take the online course again, after the Person ID has been entered.
      It will record it to ScoutNET then.
      > >
      > > Yours in Scouting,
      > > Brian Sutilla
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com> ,
      "bnelson45" <bnelson45@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Right now, if you have your membership ID in myscouting, it pours into
      Scout Net just fine when you finish a course. As far as I can tell.
      > > >
      > > > Bill
      > > >
      > > > --- In scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      , struax@ wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > And that is when the issues really begin....
      > > > > Will all data map correctly back to scoutnet and be retrieved by
      reports generated
      > > > >
      > > > > Scott
      > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
      > > > >
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: "bnelson45" <bnelson45@>
      > > > >
      > > > > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:15:50
      > > > > To: <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
      <mailto:scouter_t%40yahoogroups.com>
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      > > > > Subject: [Scouter_T] Re: CS Training Requirements Question
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