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14859Re: [Scouter_T] Introduction To Outdoor Leader Skills

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  • Dan Smith
    Apr 6 3:23 PM
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      You are blaming the wrong entity for the lousy record keeping. The local council enters all of the training records. Make a good friend of your District Commissioner. With the new tools in my.scouting.org he can enter those records for you and solve that problem.

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      On Apr 6, 2014, at 5:58 PM, "Whiteley, John F" <whiteley@...> wrote:


      Dear Connie:

      Or National is just lousy at record keeping! My Troop just rechartered, and for the second year in a row we are listed as "Not a Quality Unit" because the Unit Leader (me) is untrained. Let's see -- Scoutmaster Fundamentals in1982, Wood Badge in1985, all the Scoutmaster basic training courses, including IOLS, again in 2010, Wood Badge in 2012 (again) and I sent copies of all my certificates to the Council last year. Now I have to do it again.

      National really has to get its act together. If we ran a business like this we would be out of business very soon (which may be the way National is heading).


      Scoutmaster (but officially untrained) Troop 74

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      From: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com <scouter_t@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Connie Knie <cknie23100@...>
      Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:57:57 PM
      To: scouter_t@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [Scouter_T] Introduction To Outdoor Leader Skills

      Is it me or is that really sad?  And to not make training mandatory for that reason is cowardice.

      As I see it, yes there may be a hit in registered leadership, for a short while. But when the new scouts cross over it will just be part of the culture and will be no biggie. I mean the only ones who are fighting it now are the ones who have been doing this for a million years and probably never took training to begin with.

      It might even make Boy Scout leaders work harder to recruit from the incoming Webelos parents/leaders since we know they need to be trained so being proactive about training will become part of the Boy Scout culture. 

      From: Michael Crothers <dowrightbw@...>

      National has stopped the trail program.

      The results were such that national gave up requiring mandatory training.

      The results units with 20 registered scouters became at recharter time 5 registered members.
      People stop registering as a leader so they would not have to take training. They were probable still
      volunteering, just not taking the mandatory training.  

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