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  • jknunn@houston.rr.com
    Thanks so much for sharing this! Kelly ... From: Rebecca Nolen Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 8:35 am Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston]
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      Thanks so much for sharing this!
      Kelly

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Rebecca Nolen <rlnolen@...>
      Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2005 8:35 am
      Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas

      >
      > What a good idea Peggy. I know, I went up to the computer lab and
      > the fellow
      > wouldn't change a $5.00 and the use of the computers meant I had
      > to have a
      > student "card" for $2.00. And then it was 10 cents a sheet of
      > paper printed.
      > I only needed to print out a cover letter. I ended up just not
      > having a
      > cover letter for anything. Hopefully it won't make a big deal's
      > worth of
      > difference.
      >
      > Let me encourage everyone about editor's day. If you have heard
      > this story
      > please forgive me.
      >
      > On our last Editor's Day there were five editors. Within six
      > months I had
      > received four rejections. I had heard that one of the editors was
      > fired upon
      > her return to NYC and because I didn't hear from that publishing
      > house, I
      > wrote it off as a rejection and kept submitting (and getting rejected)
      > elsewhere. One year and a month later, I received my submission
      > from that
      > publisher. This editor had taken on the job of going through all the
      > submissions from our editors day and she apologized for the delay.
      > The long
      > letter went on about how my story didn't make any sense because of
      > thisreason or that and why didn't I think of changing this and
      > that and then
      > resubmitting it? AND ANYTHING ELSE I HAD!!!! It took me a day to
      > absorb what
      > that meant.
      >
      > To make a long story short "Bella Rupert" is in its third rewrite
      > for this
      > editor who says "she loves the voice". She has it as we speak. I
      > haven'theard (and she usually rejects my other submissions within
      > weeks with really
      > great suggestions.) Recently she said "I enjoy your writing and
      > can't wait
      > till we have something that works for Dutton!"
      >
      > Though recently I received a rejection of something from over a
      > year and a
      > half ago from Albert Whitman, don't let the long wait for news get you
      > down-- sometimes it's good news. My thing is that I always have
      > something in
      > the system somewhere. So no matter how low I may feel about
      > myself, or
      > writing, or whatever, in the back of my mind I know there are still
      > possibilities out there.
      >
      > from Rebecca
      >
      > "What is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or
      > conversation?" Lewis Carroll
      > -------Original Message-------
      >
      > From: Peggy
      > Date: 03/09/05 07:47:49
      > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
      >
      > I like Doris' idea. That way you can make changes to your
      > manuscript or
      > redirect your manuscript after the conference. You still have a
      > two week
      > time period, and Mary's load is lifted in trying to mail off all the
      > manuscripts. An attendee would know at the conference how many
      > stickers she
      > would need. You could even put an initial for each editor in the
      > corner, so
      > more than one sticker wouldn't be used for the same editor. I
      > think there
      > could potentially be a big pile up in the library if 100 people
      > run up there
      > during the break. I don't know. It's hard to find a solution,
      > but Editor's
      > Day is such a wonderful opportunity for us that are unagented and
      > unconnected. PEGGY
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Doris Fisher <dfisher@...>
      > Sent: Mar 8, 2005 8:08 PM
      > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
      >
      >
      > Mary,
      >
      > I think you did a fantastic job. I was commenting on a situation
      > that is
      > ideal, but
      > not practical.
      >
      > I was just assuming attendees could have two weeks to submit to
      > the editor
      > at
      > the prescribed address. Stickers for the envelopes could be handed
      > out for
      > the
      > submission to guarantee attendance on the exact Editors Day. It is
      > just a
      > thought.
      >
      > However, I am more than willing to follow any procedure, whatever
      > is decided
      >
      >
      > Of course there will be always be suggestions, but when it comes
      > right down
      > to it,
      > experience is a great teacher.
      >
      > You seem to know the ropes, so go, Mary, go.
      >
      > Doris
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > * * * * *
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      > Pink Ink Editing
      > Personal Puzzles
      > www.abcdoris.com
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: marydwade@...
      > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:22 PM
      > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
      >
      >
      > Doris,
      >
      > On the subject of submitting later for Editor Day, I do not see
      > a good
      > solution to this problem. The idea is definitely right, but
      > logistics is a
      >
      > nightmare.
      >
      > It is a struggle now to get the manuscripts off. I make sure
      > that the
      > number
      > of names on the list matches the number of manuscripts in the
      > box. The
      > first
      > year, I matched names on the list with manuscripts in the box.
      > That was
      > just
      > too much work. I for one would not take on the responsibility of
      > sendingoff
      > the manuscripts if I had to receive 100 or so manuscripts for
      > one editor
      > -- this
      > time one editor had 110 -- much less getting them for five
      > editors. These
      > would have to be sorted daily as they came in. One, my mailbox
      > would not
      > hold
      > them. Two, they would have to be sorted daily. Then there is the
      > problemof
      > something happening to the manuscript on its way to the person
      > shippingthe
      > manuscripts or it being inadvertently put in the wrong box.
      >
      > I fully agree that I heard information from the speakers that I
      > didn't get
      >
      > from studying the catalogs. But I don't know how to solve this
      > problem. We
      > have
      > attendees from out of town, and that compounds the problem of
      > getting
      > manuscripts to someone later.
      >
      > If anyone has good ideas on how to do this, I'm all ears.
      >
      > Mary
      >
      >
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    • Varsha Bajaj
      Well said, Rebecca. Good luck to Bella! Ribbit! Varsha ... From: Rebecca Nolen To: Sent: Wednesday,
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        Well said, Rebecca. Good luck to Bella! Ribbit!
        Varsha
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        From: "Rebecca Nolen" <rlnolen@...>
        To: <scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:51 AM
        Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas


        >
        > thank you Carmen, it may get rejected yet but it won't be for not trying.
        >
        > "What is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or
        > conversation?" Lewis Carroll
        > -------Original Message-------
        >
        > From: ctbkaty@...
        > Date: 03/09/05 08:59:07
        > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
        >
        >
        >
        > Rebecca,
        >
        > I love Bella Rupert and hope it gets published.
        > Good luck. Carmen
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      • Deborah Frontiera
        This makes the most sense to me. Debbie Frontiera ... From: Peggy To:
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          This makes the most sense to me.
          Debbie Frontiera
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          From: Peggy<mailto:pgshallock@...>
          To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com<mailto:scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:40 AM
          Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas



          I like Doris' idea. That way you can make changes to your manuscript or redirect your manuscript after the conference. You still have a two week time period, and Mary's load is lifted in trying to mail off all the manuscripts. An attendee would know at the conference how many stickers she would need. You could even put an initial for each editor in the corner, so more than one sticker wouldn't be used for the same editor. I think there could potentially be a big pile up in the library if 100 people run up there during the break. I don't know. It's hard to find a solution, but Editor's Day is such a wonderful opportunity for us that are unagented and unconnected. PEGGY

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Doris Fisher <dfisher@...<mailto:dfisher@...>>
          Sent: Mar 8, 2005 8:08 PM
          To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com<mailto:scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com>
          Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas


          Mary,

          I think you did a fantastic job. I was commenting on a situation that is ideal, but
          not practical.

          I was just assuming attendees could have two weeks to submit to the editor at
          the prescribed address. Stickers for the envelopes could be handed out for the
          submission to guarantee attendance on the exact Editors Day. It is just a thought.

          However, I am more than willing to follow any procedure, whatever is decided.

          Of course there will be always be suggestions, but when it comes right down to it,
          experience is a great teacher.

          You seem to know the ropes, so go, Mary, go.

          Doris




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          From: marydwade@...<mailto:marydwade@...>
          To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com<mailto:scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:22 PM
          Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas


          Doris,

          On the subject of submitting later for Editor Day, I do not see a good
          solution to this problem. The idea is definitely right, but logistics is a
          nightmare.

          It is a struggle now to get the manuscripts off. I make sure that the number
          of names on the list matches the number of manuscripts in the box. The first
          year, I matched names on the list with manuscripts in the box. That was just
          too much work. I for one would not take on the responsibility of sending off
          the manuscripts if I had to receive 100 or so manuscripts for one editor -- this
          time one editor had 110 -- much less getting them for five editors. These
          would have to be sorted daily as they came in. One, my mailbox would not hold
          them. Two, they would have to be sorted daily. Then there is the problem of
          something happening to the manuscript on its way to the person shipping the
          manuscripts or it being inadvertently put in the wrong box.

          I fully agree that I heard information from the speakers that I didn't get
          from studying the catalogs. But I don't know how to solve this problem. We have
          attendees from out of town, and that compounds the problem of getting
          manuscripts to someone later.

          If anyone has good ideas on how to do this, I'm all ears.

          Mary


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        • Martygra
          Thank you, Rebecca. ... From: Rebecca Nolen To: Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re:
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            Thank you, Rebecca.
            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "Rebecca Nolen" <rlnolen@...>
            To: <scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:35 AM
            Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas


            >
            > What a good idea Peggy. I know, I went up to the computer lab and the
            > fellow
            > wouldn't change a $5.00 and the use of the computers meant I had to have a
            > student "card" for $2.00. And then it was 10 cents a sheet of paper
            > printed.
            > I only needed to print out a cover letter. I ended up just not having a
            > cover letter for anything. Hopefully it won't make a big deal's worth of
            > difference.
            >
            > Let me encourage everyone about editor's day. If you have heard this story
            > please forgive me.
            >
            > On our last Editor's Day there were five editors. Within six months I had
            > received four rejections. I had heard that one of the editors was fired
            > upon
            > her return to NYC and because I didn't hear from that publishing house, I
            > wrote it off as a rejection and kept submitting (and getting rejected)
            > elsewhere. One year and a month later, I received my submission from that
            > publisher. This editor had taken on the job of going through all the
            > submissions from our editors day and she apologized for the delay. The
            > long
            > letter went on about how my story didn't make any sense because of this
            > reason or that and why didn't I think of changing this and that and then
            > resubmitting it? AND ANYTHING ELSE I HAD!!!! It took me a day to absorb
            > what
            > that meant.
            >
            > To make a long story short "Bella Rupert" is in its third rewrite for this
            > editor who says "she loves the voice". She has it as we speak. I haven't
            > heard (and she usually rejects my other submissions within weeks with
            > really
            > great suggestions.) Recently she said "I enjoy your writing and can't wait
            > till we have something that works for Dutton!"
            >
            > Though recently I received a rejection of something from over a year and a
            > half ago from Albert Whitman, don't let the long wait for news get you
            > down-- sometimes it's good news. My thing is that I always have something
            > in
            > the system somewhere. So no matter how low I may feel about myself, or
            > writing, or whatever, in the back of my mind I know there are still
            > possibilities out there.
            >
            > from Rebecca
            >
            > "What is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or
            > conversation?" Lewis Carroll
            > -------Original Message-------
            >
            > From: Peggy
            > Date: 03/09/05 07:47:49
            > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
            >
            > I like Doris' idea. That way you can make changes to your manuscript or
            > redirect your manuscript after the conference. You still have a two week
            > time period, and Mary's load is lifted in trying to mail off all the
            > manuscripts. An attendee would know at the conference how many stickers
            > she
            > would need. You could even put an initial for each editor in the corner,
            > so
            > more than one sticker wouldn't be used for the same editor. I think there
            > could potentially be a big pile up in the library if 100 people run up
            > there
            > during the break. I don't know. It's hard to find a solution, but
            > Editor's
            > Day is such a wonderful opportunity for us that are unagented and
            > unconnected. PEGGY
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Doris Fisher <dfisher@...>
            > Sent: Mar 8, 2005 8:08 PM
            > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
            >
            >
            > Mary,
            >
            > I think you did a fantastic job. I was commenting on a situation that is
            > ideal, but
            > not practical.
            >
            > I was just assuming attendees could have two weeks to submit to the editor
            > at
            > the prescribed address. Stickers for the envelopes could be handed out for
            > the
            > submission to guarantee attendance on the exact Editors Day. It is just a
            > thought.
            >
            > However, I am more than willing to follow any procedure, whatever is
            > decided
            >
            >
            > Of course there will be always be suggestions, but when it comes right
            > down
            > to it,
            > experience is a great teacher.
            >
            > You seem to know the ropes, so go, Mary, go.
            >
            > Doris
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > * * * * *
            > March Games
            > Pink Ink Editing
            > Personal Puzzles
            > www.abcdoris.com
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: marydwade@...
            > To: scbwi-houston@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:22 PM
            > Subject: Re: [scbwi-houston] Editors Day ideas
            >
            >
            > Doris,
            >
            > On the subject of submitting later for Editor Day, I do not see a good
            > solution to this problem. The idea is definitely right, but logistics is
            > a
            >
            > nightmare.
            >
            > It is a struggle now to get the manuscripts off. I make sure that the
            > number
            > of names on the list matches the number of manuscripts in the box. The
            > first
            > year, I matched names on the list with manuscripts in the box. That was
            > just
            > too much work. I for one would not take on the responsibility of sending
            > off
            > the manuscripts if I had to receive 100 or so manuscripts for one editor
            > -- this
            > time one editor had 110 -- much less getting them for five editors. These
            > would have to be sorted daily as they came in. One, my mailbox would not
            > hold
            > them. Two, they would have to be sorted daily. Then there is the problem
            > of
            > something happening to the manuscript on its way to the person shipping
            > the
            > manuscripts or it being inadvertently put in the wrong box.
            >
            > I fully agree that I heard information from the speakers that I didn't
            > get
            >
            > from studying the catalogs. But I don't know how to solve this problem.
            > We
            > have
            > attendees from out of town, and that compounds the problem of getting
            > manuscripts to someone later.
            >
            > If anyone has good ideas on how to do this, I'm all ears.
            >
            > Mary
            >
            >
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