Re: adressing the baroness
- Thank you for the info. I was just asking someone about how to
address "royalty" earlier this evening, instead of dodging them at
every turn. I have only been playing since July 2006 and am still
not sure about some of the specifics. Until I am, I do a great job
of going in the opposite direction from whence they come...am sure I
will be cornered one day though.
--- In email@example.com, "Archangel" <Archangel@...>
>Sir or Madam. Other royalty: Your Royal Highness. Duke/Duchess:Your
> Here are the corect royal addresses :King or Queen: Your Majesty;
Grace or Duke/Duchess. Marquess/Marchioness:My Lord/Madam or Dear
Lord/Lady. Earl:My Lord or Dear Lord. Countess (wife of an
earl):Madam or Dear Lady . Viscount/Viscountess:My Lord/Lady or Dear
Lord/Lady. Baron/Baroness:My Lord/Madam or Dear Lord/Lady.
Baronet:Dear Sir. Wife of Baronet:Dear Madam. Knight:Dear Sir. Wife
> Hope that helps :-)Dutchess, and for Baron/Baroness iy was "Your Excellency". But
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: schnauzer2@...
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Cc: Silver Wolf
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] adressing the baroness
> It had been explained to me that 'Your Grace" was for a Duke or
M'Lord/M'Lady always works.
> -Sianaddress her
> ---- Silver Wolf <silverwolf01@...> wrote:
> > From what I know it is fine while you are in a small circle of
> > friends, but people will look at you funny when you would
> > like that in a more SCAdian environment.is "Your Grace".
> > I believe the correct way to address baron and baroness
> > Someone correct me if I'm wrong?holds
> > If you are not sure what titul the person you are talking with
> > or you are uncertain how to properly address them,use "M'Lord" and
> > "M'Lady". This always works.saying that
> > I use "Sir" to address men, and while a lot to correct me
> > they do not hold a titul of a knight.... no one really seemsto mind.
> > ~Wolfy ( talk to the paw.... paw knows )
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- pren wrote:
> . . .I always call [our baroness] just angelina because I feel like IThere's a brief introduction to the various Society ranks, and the
> know her. . .Am I being disrespectfull?. . .I just want to be sure to
> practice the correct form of address so as to show respect for the
> higher ups you know?
forms of address associated with each one, at
If you're concerned about forms of address not only for your own
baroness but for all "the higher-ups", you might find it helpful to
learn the sumptuary laws for your kingdom, and to familiarize yourself
with the regalia and badges of the various peerages (white belts and
circular chains for knights, white baldrics for masters and mistresses
of the chivalry, laurel wreaths for laurels, chapeaus or pelicans
vulning themselves or in their piety for pelicans).
In Ansteorra, for example, a circlet more than a half-inch high is a
coronet. A coronet that is flat or engrailed, with or without 6 to 12
hemi-spherical projections, indicates a baroness or baron. A coronet
with 1, 4, or 6 semi-circular projections indicates a viscountess or
viscount. An embattled or dovetailed coronet indicates a countess or
count. A coronet with three strawberry leaves on it indicates a
duchess or duke. And a crown with the Queen's Rose marks the current
queen. (There are other elements that are restricted, but worn by
people of various ranks. All the details are in Article IX of the
A lot of people with the right to wear one or the other of these choose
not to, or choose to wear them only to court. But they're generally
the ones that are happy to be known as "m'lady" or "m'lord", despite
Barony of Bryn Gwlad
Kingdom of Ansteorra
- Baroness are people too. She has a real job and life outside the SCA.
Unless stated otherwise most "hats" (those with head decorations like a
crown of some kind,) generally don't want to have their formal title
and address used at regular weekly activities.
However, at events and "official" moments, whatever those may end up
being, then yes.
You can address a baron or baronees by the title Baron(ess) NAME. OR
you can address them as Baron(ess) NAME OF BARONNY. OR you can simply
address a Baron(ess) as Your Excellency.
Grace if for Dukes and Duchesses. Highness is for territorial prince
and princesses, royal highness for heirs to the throne, Majesties for
sitting royalty. (They have a whole host of other ways to address
sitting royalty but Majesty is enough for now.)
Ian the Green
--- In email@example.com, "archerpren" <archerpren@...>
> Hi all! I have a quick question our baroness leads our company of
> clotheirs group once a month and is so nice and helpfull in all
> of being a new sca member. Her sca name is baroness angelina. but Ithat
> always call her just angelina because I feel like I know her (not
> we like kick it on the weekends or anything). Am I beingme.
> disrespectfull? She is so nice I don't think she would ever correct
> She doesn't seem offended either. I am fairly new to this whole thing
> and I just want to be sure to practice the correct form of address so
> as to show respect for the higher ups you know? thanks! pren
- It does help. Thank you. I even printed it out. ;0P pren
***In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Archangel" <Archangel@...> wrote:
Here are the corect royal addresses :King or Queen: Your Majesty; Sir
or Madam. Other royalty: Your Royal Highness. Duke/Duchess:Your Grace
or Duke/Duchess. Marquess/Marchioness:My Lord/Madam or Dear Lord/Lady.
Earl:My Lord or Dear Lord. Countess (wife of an earl):Madam or Dear
Lady . Viscount/Viscountess:My Lord/Lady or Dear Lord/Lady.
Baron/Baroness:My Lord/Madam or Dear Lord/Lady. Baronet:Dear Sir. Wife
of Baronet:Dear Madam. Knight:Dear Sir. Wife of knight:Lady
Hope that helps :-)
- Reguarding 'Hats'.
A good rule of thumb is if their wearing their hat, use the title. If
not they are incognito.
Some people tend to shy away from speaking to a 'hat', whereas if
there is no hat visible, conversation is much easier.
Baron Master Gwilym
- I ADDRESS ALL ANY SUNDRY ROYALS AS "YOUR ROYAL
AT FIRST GREETING YOU USE A FULL ADDRESS "YOUR ROYAL
HIGHNESS: (RANK/TITLE) (ROYALS FULL NAME HERE)".
EXAMPLE: "YOUR ROYAL HIGHNESS: KING ZEUS OLYMPIA".
AFTER THAT "YOUR ROYAL HIGHNESS" UNLESS INSTRUCTED
OTHERWISE BY SAID ROYAL. KREYZE PADREYK
- Most "SCA" royals, IMO, are great people to talk to.
Very knowledgeable, interesting and as such should not
be avoided. If you treat them with some sort of
courtesy and formality that is usually enough. They
do not tend to hung up on proper forms of address, as
long as you acknowledge their rank/title and give them
some respect. Kreyze Padreyk.