Re: [SCA Newcomers] Early Italian Ren
- Quoting Chris Catalfamo <chriscat53@...>:
> I think I may have asked this before and didn;t get an answer, orHey, Chris. Them menopause moments will get you every time!
> maybe it was to another list. (menopause moment). What is the best
> source/pattern for early Italian Ren? I need to make my daughter a
> ball dress for Pennsic. I have a choice of two silks at home now, a
> bright blue and a "black cherry" colored taffeta. I need to find
> coordinating fabirc for an overdress and am not entirely sure what
> kind of fabric should be used for what part of the gown. Damask
> outer and solid under?
How early, and *where* Florentine and Venetian can be radically
different. Bella has some images of relatively early Venetian
(starting 1490s) here ...
Jen Thompson has some cool Florentine paintings here starting 1475 here
Bella's galleries will take you up to 1600; Jens to 1575.
Patterns? Most of the Big 3 patterns are ok. You'll need to take out
the darts. Simplicity has one that's almost a dead ringer for a Durer
The only close-to-authentic pre-made pattern that I know of is one by
Medieval Miscellanea (Aka Period Patterns) but I don't know how well
it sews up or how well it's sized. I do know that you should throw
the directions away.
several folks sell them including Pillaged Village, Amazon Dry Goods, etc.
has them too.
I don't remember now, what your pattern-drafting skills are, but you
might be interested in these two web pages
I can be tacky (and funny!) and say if you're "only" wanting it for
*Pennsic* then any of the Big 3 will work, but I know that your
authenticity standards are a tad higher than "generic Pennsic." (I
also know many that go to Pennsic with extremely high authenticity
standards, so don't think I'm slamming Pennsic, folks who go to
Pennsic, etc. -- yeah, it's a paranoid morning!)
If you're really into Italian (and I've got some Italian/Spanish links
for you of dark women in portraits), you might want to join the
Italian Ren List ...
jerusha (feel free to contact me off-list if you'd like!)
University of Tennessee
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology